It barely fits in the bloody car park. So bad for pedestrians and the environment.

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    For complete fairness to everyone we should tax every vehicle on road or path from scooters and bikes to b-doubles based on the 4th power of axle load to properly account for the impact on road maintenance costs. Then additional levies for disproportionate environmental costs and harm to vulnerable road users. Keep the overall tax amount the same but shift the burden so people with smaller vehicles pay substantially less than they do now. And then add strict liability for anything much larger than a kei car.

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      Yes, however with that it’d be more expensive to administer taxation on bicycles etc. Than what they’d bring in… So not really worth doing at all.

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        Since the amount of damage caused by bikes to infrastructure would be small, the govt could just slap a tax for the cost to the purchase price of every bike. Not saying I’d agree with it but there are ways to make all road users pay their share.

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          Surely human powered transport should have tax breaks in order to encourage adoption by promoting affordability though.

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    Hi American here - please don’t let those things take over your roads, it sucks for all the reasons you think it does

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    They’re every inconvenience rolled in to one. A pain to get in. A pain to park. Use heaps of fuel. Don’t fit in garages, and to top it off are expensive AF. I’m confident in saying unless you tow like, horse floats on the regular, if you own one you’re a fucking idiot.

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      They’re not actually that bad on fuel. Don’t get me wrong, I’d never own one but a few of our major players at work have them as some sort of status symbol. Cruising in overdrive at 100km/h they can go as low as 6L/100km, but average is around 12L/100km unless you are doing lots of hunting through the gearbox or driving like a dick, then you can see some truly disturbing fuel usage figures.

      To put it in perspective, this is on par with a modern hilux, and WORLDS better than the 2022 79 series landcruiser even with all the fuel efficiency gains they made.

      To be clear I still don’t think anyone should be driving one here - our roads and car parks are simply not built for them. They aren’t that great offroad either. Really the only genuine use case is towing an enormous caravan down the hwy, in which case I hate you anyway because that’s TWO symbols of you being an inconsiderate prick that doesn’t care about anyone else.

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    My dad recently bought an F-350. He works in an office and lives in the suburbs. Why he willing chose to get 14mpg with post COVID gas prices is beyond me…

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    If you live in the City then these things are pointless, but in the country they are some of the handy vehicles to have. And they sell like hotcakes out here.

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    But now that Holden have stopped making Commodores, how else are you meant to show you’re a dickhead?

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      Through the quality of your driving, the aggressiveness of your horn usage, the size of your exhaust, and how quick your road rage builds.

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      I would love to go electric, but I can’t afford an eutectic car and I live in an apartment with no chatting stations.

      On top of that, I still have misgivings due to the longevity of current battery technology. Current Li-ion batteries have a pretty strict life span. Combine that with the fact that I will probably never be able to afford a new car meaning any car I do own in going to be running on an already old battery box and replacing the battery box is very expensive. Also most electric vehicles are artificially rendered unrepairable by the user, requiring “licensed repair technicians” to repair them, at a premium price of course. It’s just not in the cards for poor people. Not to mention the environmental and humanitarian impact of li-ion battery manufacturing.

      Electric vehicles could be part of the solution to our environmental problems, but capitalism is crippling then at their knees.

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        For what it’s worth, here’s my anacdotal experience.

        I traded in a Hybrid Camry for a Hyundai Ionic Electric almost exactly 3 years ago.

        The Electric version was $40k (it was a demo so about $5k cheaper than brand new) and about $8-10k more than the petrol only model.

        The first year of driving it I saved a minimum of $4k in petrol compared to the old hybrid and that is with the electricity costs factored in. Though it was closer to 4.5 when solar was taken into consideration.

        This year I saved a bit more due to higher petrol prices and was a minimum of $5k saved compared to the hybrid, and again closer to 5.5 with solar.

        Both years I did about 25,000kms. So after 2 years the difference in price has paid for itself, though we still have a loan for the car in theory the extra savings from not paying for petrol will help to pay the rest of the loan off. Though it’s mostly being eaten up by inflation.

        We are lucky enough to be in a position of semi- owning our own home so we could install power in the carport and solar. If we were renting we certainly wouldn’t have done that which makes a huge difference. Also if we couldn’t charge at home it’d be a massive hassle to charge away from home, which I’ve only had to do 5-6 times in the last 2 years. We only have a travel charger at home it is 2.2kw and very slow but we don’t, and haven’t needed a faster charger.

        For battery life, my car has I think, an 8 year warranty on the battery having at least 90% capacity remaining. My range is typically 330kms on a full charge. If I get down to 90% capacity and still have 300kms off a charge I won’t notice the difference.

        I worked out the rough difference of my car compared to the petrol in terms of carbon emissions from making the battery just using global averages for making batteries. My car hit even with the petrol at about 70,000kms, after that it significantly drops off on the carbon emission side even when using 100% grid power from only coal power while petrol cars keep producing.

        For the global average driver at 10,000kms a year it’s obviously about 7 years to break even, for myself it’ll be the end of year 3 in theory.

        I can’t say much on replacing batteries even though currently it is very expensive, battery technology and capacity keeps getting better, so one would hope that would mean in the future it would cost less to replace and give you more range. But then how will the shareholders reap the benefits of record profits every year.

        I never really did the serving on my hybrid, but I’ve found the service costs pretty comparable. The last 12 month service was $360 and that includes 22months of roadside assistance.

        I want to also mention it is the smoothest car I’ve ever driven which is nice on long trips.

        I know there’ll be people who will not care about any of this and others will still consider electric cars bad because of {insert small inconvenience or difference to petrol cars}, but don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. They’re a good start for individuals to make the change if they have the means, but the largest corporations are the biggest polluters which need regulations and rules put in place before they will start doing there share.

        Apologies for rambling.

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    In America, I’m sick and tired of seeing them. They’re minivans for insecure dads. They’re props for office workers who want to LARP as construction workers

    Every time I see them, all I can think is that they hate kids (huge blind spots) and love to complain about gas/petrol prices. They also don’t fit in our huge parking spaces. Sure, they have their uses, but I really doubt that the shiny, pristine truck is being used to haul/tow anything

    The real construction workers/laborers are usually seen driving normal sedans/cars, minivans, or actual vans. Fuck pickup trucks, they’re awful

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    I live in bumfuck Egypt and mostly everybody drives a truck. They are awful, giant, and dangerous. I do not feel that the majority of people that use them actually need them, but everybody has bought into the marketing campaign that in order to be a real man you gotta drive some big fuckoff vehicle. It’sd asinine

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      I do see a use case for them in Egypt though. In harsher environments they excel quite well. They’re designed to be more reliable and serviceable than regular cars. But it’s unnecessary in urban environments and easier climates.

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        Lol, someone isn’t an old and decrepit person.

        BFE is just a phrase to mean the middle of nowhere like a town of 200 people.