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Man Jailed, Raped, and Beaten After False Facial Recognition Match, $10M Lawsuit Alleges::A 61-year-old man alleges that a facial recognition algorithm used a mugshot from the 1980s to ID him in a crime he didn’t commit.
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Due to the bail system, jail also serves as punishment for being poor.
“Wait, it’s class warfare… all the way down!?!”
“Always has been”
I find this sentiment… a bit wishy washy.
When someone bad goes to prison it’s “I hope he gets his ass beat”, when someone innocent goes to prison it’s “how could they let this happen??”
I don’t want anyone beaten up in gaol.
Ew did you just soft G that?! The fuck
Family story time: my family is full of academically minded people (three of my grandparents worked as Latin teachers), with varying levels of snobbery and reasonableness. One of the first times my dad went to my maternal grandparents house for dinner, someone said “margarine,” pronouncing it with a hard g. My father asked why, and my grandfather explained that there’s no soft g followed by an a in English.
My father accepted this, and looking to change the subject, asked if my grandparents could offer any help analyzing “The Ballad of Reading Gaol.”
Did he not pronounce garage, “jur-AHJ”? Weird.
Calm your farm. It’s British/Australian spelling.
Sorry, it just looks like a horrible phaol’d spelling.
Ghoti vibes
In the Australian accent, it’s jay-oll, not jay-ill, so the spelling makes sense here.
Ghoti Hook?
I don’t want anyone getting raped in prison.
Do you understand "nobody“?
Yeah do you understand how people shit out platitudes about hoping no one gets hurt when it’s someone innocent then turn and say the opposite when it’s someone they hate?
Look at comments when pedos go to jail.
It’s there. Every time.
But those people that wish other humans such bad stuff are most likely not the same people as those who wish that nobody gets hurt. There are many people in the planet and only few comment on posts. And often comments are written out of emotion and not rational. And people who see one kind of posts may not see the other kind of posts due to filter they have set, which as well creates bias. Always remember that.
I guess that’s a good point. I can’t guarantee the same people are switching opinions as I thought
One person on the internet: “one thing”
A different internet person: “the opposite of that”
You: “Everyone on the internet is a hypocrite”
Most people saying anything around those lines doesn’t actually care about justice or doing the right thing, they just want someone to come to harm, and it not be their fault or responsibility.
It’s like anonymity online. As long as they aren’t directly involved they are fine with it.
Weird. I’ve seen so many calls for this or that to someone while in jail and just get absolutely roasted in the comments.
The justiceporn community is a weird bunch that haven’t matured past 16 and watch “reality” TV in record numbers.
This is the second time this week I’ve come across someone equating two very different stances held by people in the same group to everyone in the group holding both opinions
A friendly reminder that groups aren’t real, they’re in our heads - every group is just a bunch of individual people.
I don’t care if the facial recognition worked exactly as it was supposed to, with 100% accuracy (I know, we are in fantasy land here, but stay with this hypothetical), WTF? Nobody in jail deserves that. Also I’m thinking, does everyone who goes to that jail get beat up and gang raped? It just makes news if it’s the “wrong” guy?
There’s a great show on Netflix called ‘60 days in’. It’s silly and exploitative on the surface but read between the lines and you will learn a lot about the justice system in US. It’s basically designed to dehumanize and torture people with no presumption of innocence or any safeguards. The only goal is to punish as many people as possible. That’s what the society expects from it and people that run it are happy to deliver.
This is why I personally don’t believe in jail/prison. Rehabilitation, yes. Jail or prison? No. I’m no professional but I feel as though I have seen countless studies about how our prison system is a failure and how all it does is set people up to come back. That doesn’t even touch on private prisons and their financial incentives to get people back into the system.
I live in Spain and I remember seeing a story in the local newspaper about a guy complaining that he was released from prison before he could finish some professional course he was doing (he got ~2 year sentence). He said that outside of prison he can’t afford this type of education he was getting there for free. Just imagine, prison was actually offering him a way to a better job and life later. And that’s not even the famous Norway, just normal Spain. This is how it should work. Locking up people just so they suffer for a bit is sick and pointless.
Learning about norway made me a prison reformist, learning about the US prison system made me an abolitionist. I’m skeptical that the leviathan of the prison-industrial complex can be reformed.
Our system is so fucked up its insane. Inside, it’s terrible. Outside? Good luck getting a job with a criminal record. It’ll force you to steal to live, then you’ll be thrown back in.
Eric King is an ex political prisoner who has just recently been released, and he has been on a ton of leftist and anarchist podcasts in the past two or three weeks. His interview with The Final Straw Radio gives good insights on how halfway houses suck, and his interview with IGD is a good eye inside prison.
Fuck prisons, fuck cops, this shit sucks.
Unfortunately big issue is that ‘tough on crime’ resonates very well with the general public. 65% of Americans still believe death penalty is morally justified. There’s no hope for any reform if most people don’t want one.
It’s like America wants to create terrorists.
About that
They actually do. It perpetuates profits for the MIC.
It’s also a good way to keep us proles in line
He will have some cash to fund it.
They’ll probably join forces with Mexican Joker.
10M isn’t enough for this shit…
No amount of money is.
The courts will run with this logic and award him nothing.
I’m not surprised to hear this took place in Texas. Southerners seem to see jail and prison violence as a feature rather than an issue.
Okay, but why are the store and the loss prevention agencies the ones being sued? Not saying they are 100% innocent, but isn’t the real blame here on the law enforcement system, for jailing someone based on such lousy evidence and for allowing such things to happen in jail?
Because thats not a lawsuit you win. The fact that law enforcement can arrest you on almost nothing is a feature of the system not a bug. They can cuff you for no reason and as soon as your in cuffs you’re presumed to be a danger and guilty, as policy. They’re not a court they have no obligation to assume anyone is innocent.
If it was proven he was subjected to cruel and unusual punishment while incarcerated, you absolutely can sue for that and you can win.
Ah, the good’ol Jail and Rape
These pseudo identification systems have been around in police TV shows for 40 years, so of course a nobody in front of a system that says “there is a match” will get excited about it and won’t change his mind. Unless it is a blonde young lady or grey haired old caucasian, the police won’t have second thoughts either. What a fucked up reality
Doesn’t an arrest warrant need to be signed off by someone who looks for actual police work? “The store said it’s this guy” would seem to fall short.
You’re assuming no judge has ever rubber stamped a warrant without reading it?…
