I think they’re well informed and appreciate beauty. What do you think?

Hope nobody minds the generalizing BTW!

Friendly jokes be welcome. Consider adding /s as some people have difficulty with sarcasm.

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    I’ve been really surprised by urban high schoolers and college kids - their sense of style and affect is much more unisex and there’s a distinct apathy toward gender norms. Plenty of ostensibly “straight” young couples wearing clothes and behaving in ways what would have coded millennial youth as queer.

    Most of the openly nonbinary people (they/thems) I’ve met are much younger than me.

    Groovy. Gender roles are dead. Guess this might help explain why trans folk are seen as the big bad by boomer conservatives and rural folks.

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      What’s the last thing you meant? Don’t trans people follow gender roles? It kinda clashes with postgen and some nonbinaries.

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        There appears to be a punctuated rejection of more traditional gender roles in current youth. With the concurrent increased visibility of trans people, I can sort of see how someone who is under-informed and fearful of change might blame trans folks for this or perceive them as a threat. There’s no actual reason to think these are causal, but I can kind of see how one could end up seeing it that way.

        Just spitballing, I’ve been trying to wrap my head around where the vitriol toward trans* folks comes from lately. Like yeah, bigotry and lack of understanding, but that kind of dismissal doesn’t lead to understanding or dialogue. Still not sure what is so scary about cultural changes, but there seem to be people who strongly feel that “the way things are/have been” is somehow sacred or important regardless of whether there’s objective rationale?

        As far as whether trans* people necessarily follow gender roles, I haven’t really seen that to be the case in the circles I orbit. Especially since trans and nonbinary aren’t, like, mutually exclusive.

        There is a lot of pressure to conform with gendered expectations in order to “pass” and receive medical treatment, but there’s also lot of exposure to how arbitrary and unimportant gender is as a social construct.

        Does any of that help clarify?

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          Yes thank you for your time.

          It’s an interesting topic. Are genders as a social construct meaningful in any way? And is there any sort of objectivity to it?

          Duality might be a fundamental dynamic that is useful in many ways.

          I mean it’s a bit like morality. Some people argue it is entirely subjective and others that there is an objective morality. Like if we’d run into aliens they’d also have the same fundamental morality as we do. Like a kind of math. What if that’s true in this case as well?