• Alto@kbin.social
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    2 years ago

    I don’t have any particular issues with plant based meats, but I really don’t like the whole idea that everything has to replicate meat.

    There are so many amazing dishes that just happen to be vegetarian/vegan that seem to go overlooked

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      2 years ago

      You often hear this take from non-vegans. If someone wants to make substitutes, what’s the problem? Who cares?

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        2 years ago

        One thing many vegans don’t get about non-vegans is that we’re frustrated at veganism for the same “reasonable if not valid” reasons. I’ve had some vegan family/friends have serious health issues directly related to their refusal to eat meat. Yes, there’s a lot to that, and it usually spawns from people easily prone to PTSD being made to watch some disgusting documentary about the meat packing industry and going full starvation on and off until all their hair fell out. Is it veganism’s fault? Not directly.

        It’s kinda like the Catholic Church. There’s SO FEW pedophiles in the Catholic Church, but for anyone who has been touched by that, the Church itself is tainted far worse than the facts allow.

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      2 years ago

      Because selfish humans love their fucking meat and they don’t care that animals are locked into prisons where they can barely move or clean themselves, generate massive acres of literal shit pools that pollute large areas, the impact that kind of farming has on the environment….

      THAT is why there is motivation for replication. Without it how do you shut down these disgusting cow/pig/chicken torture facilities

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          2 years ago

          Hard agree. People will call you an extemist like child free communities that hate kids, as if the state of the fucking world is reason enough to chill on the kids thing

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        2 years ago

        If you had to choose between being vegan and the environment going to shit, or eating meat and the environment getting figured out, which would you pick?

        I find a lot of vegans have a really inaccurate view of non-vegans wrt eating meat. It’s not that we selfishly choose to eat meat despite feeling animals dying is a bad thing. It’s that we don’t think it’s a bad thing that animals die in a farm for food.

        And if you realize that, you might find you have things in common with non-vegans. I fight for free-range laws, anti-farm-cruelty laws, etc. I just think you’re morally in the wrong about everyone stopping eating meat. Oddly, a lot of us non-vegans see vegans to be selfish. But we try not to use that to be uncivil towards them.