Since the congregation took naloxone training in March, there’s been seven outside St. Albans. But that number is quite modest. At the drop-in centre beneath the church, where some of Ottawa’s most afflicted seek daytime refuge once the overnight shelters close, they’re doing at least one [naloxone application] a day.

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      Meh, opioid addiction is a waste of our time. We should let them figure it out themselves. They’re all adults.

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          No one. Just tired of enabling the scourge of our society and disproportionately investing in people who elect to be a drain on us all. Destroying our downtowns and making everyone unsafe.

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            Yeah it’s entirely the individuals fault and not a societal failing or anything. Every other country also has this problem for sure

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              Society made them do illegal drugs? Ohh boy I guess no one has any agency. We’re all children and need the state to help us.

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                Ah yes and everyone who has stolen food is just evil and should be jailed because they didn’t want to starve? Material conditions can substantial alter people’s decision making. If youre stuck in the cycle of poverty knowing very well you aren’t making it out, why not do hard drugs? You’re never making it anywhere anyway.

                Would you have said it was every individual Chinese person fault that they had an opium epidemic and not the British and Chinese administration for allowing the production and trade of opium to be so prevalent? Yes people have agency but if you trap someone in a box and put some heroin in it they’ll do it eventually

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                  Ah yes and everyone who has stolen food is just evil and should be jailed because they didn’t want to starve?

                  Ahh yes food and hard drugs are the same thing. Jesus give your head a shake. You don’t need to do drugs.

                  If youre stuck in the cycle of poverty knowing very well you aren’t making it out, why not do hard drugs? You’re never making it anywhere anyway.

                  We are 14th in the world for mobility. So how do you figure you’re stuck. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Social_Mobility_Index

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                    Oh I’m not referring to myself, I live quite well. I just think it’s shitty to let people rot when it’s so easy to help them. You have to be an incredibly bitter person to believe someone deserves death because they were desperate for some sort of comfort

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          I think you don’t understand it. These people made a choice to start using drugs and got addicted. It sucks but they made that choice.

          Not sure why the rest of society needs to pay for their shitty decisions.

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            Fundamentally, opioids are painkillers. Some of these people got hooked because their doctors prescribed them these drugs. Others may have been self-medicating for chronic physical pain. Are you blaming them for being in pain? There seems to be a physiological and genetic component to addiction—an inborn reason why some people get addicted to drugs or alcohol while others escape even if their circumstances are the same—that we’re only beginning to explore. Are you blaming them for their ancestry? Still others get addicted because they needed mental health support while going through a bad patch and didn’t get it. “Shitty decisions” are almost never the only factor in an addiction. Often, they’re not even a significant one.

            The rash of overdose deaths we’ve been seeing these past few years are due to the powers that be tightening controls on prescription-grade opioids, which have a known dosage per pill and seldom killed anyone even when being taken without a doctor’s endorsement. Without the prescription pills, people who were already addicted were forced to turn to street drugs that can’t be dosed properly because the purity varies from baggie to baggie. We’ve killed hundreds, if not thousands, of people as an unintended consequence of the War On (Some) Drugs—so yeah, this is society’s fault.