• SadCack@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    I encourage everyone to watch this video about “The Pitbull Problem”.

    https://youtu.be/29dDlGUv6O8

    It’s not about how cute and cuddly they are. It’s not news stories of them attacking kids. It’s a look at the cultural narratives surrounding them and the actual data about Pitbull attacks.

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      11 months ago

      The data shows that nearly every single fatal dog attack was by pitbull, with rottweilers being a distant second and basically no attacks from the other breeds

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        There are other dogs that are as aggressive or even more aggressive than Pitbulls, but the problem is that Pitbulls just don’t want to let go when they attack. A pitbull attack typically doesn’t stop until something is dead or severely maimed. The two main ways to stop a Pitbull attack are to kill the dog, or choke it unconscious. That’s why when they do attack it is so much more likely to be fatal.

        We definitely should require all Pitbulls to be spayed and neutered, and make them illegal to breed.

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        I think a large bit of this is who statistically breeds them and why. They’re a popular intimidation breed for lowlives and dog-fighter scum.

        Pits can be the sweetest of animals, but I think a large part of this correlation is the simple fact that dealer houses happen to have no interest in killer poodles or pugs to keep rivals and cops at bay.

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        Maybe part of the reason is they’re the most common dog?

        The paper in the video linked showed German Shephards attacked the most people (all reported attacks, not just fatal).

        Another problem is pitbulls aren’t a well-defined breed with clear, “pure” bloodlines. There are a lot of different kinds of “pitbulls.” Some pitbulls definitely are very aggressive, some are not at all.

        I have a smaller pitbull (adopted from a shelter), and I’ve never seen her act aggressively toward a person. She is well behaved at dog parks and kennels with free-play with other dogs.

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        One issue is that the data cited often is collected from news stories with the breed of the dog being guessed at more often than not. This leads to two significant problems. One is that any dog attack that’s reported on will probably be severe. Other dog bites that are serious but non-sensational will not be counted. Two is that the dogs breed is haphazardly guessed at by either reporters or involve parties. Simply looking at a dog, especially a mix, it can be difficult to ascertain the breed and so one might just call them a Pitbull as a guess. Although I can’t find data I would assume that pit bulls are used more often than other breeds for dog fighting, but I am ready to look at statistics and sources rather than simply confirm my own biases.

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        The point is the data comes from newspapers and media, which inaccurately reports dog breeds consistently, over reports certain breeds and under reports others. Through the 80s and 90s the media fearmongered about pitbull attacks, and this was mostly linked to the drug war and racism. So, there is no good data to go on. All the “studies” just cite these media reports.

        It’s why the CDC and Humane Society oppose breed-specific legislation.

        Edit: Downvotes don’t make this comment wrong. It just means you’re trying to suppress a truth you don’t like. The fact that the Humane Society and CDC are on my side says something about the quality of the evidence in this case. Are you all also anti-vaxxers and Q-Anon followers?

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      No. I am tired of pitbull lobby. When they get angry they have the ability to cause more damage than any other breed and they get hella angry. You can be pretty freaken awful to the vast majority of breeds intentionally or otherwise and they will just endure it, not pits. And kids are freaken stupid. They will do things dogs aren’t comfortable with. Then you get a dead kid. They were breed for a long time to be fighting dogs and mission successful.

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        Don’t be a a bigot, one baby snack once in a while and pities are the most peaceful animals on earth, did I already told you that they are nanny dogs? Anyways just put a crown flower on them, the smell of flowers helps with the bloodlust.

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            Many people downvoting you without admitting that pitbulls are the leading cause of all dog-related deaths. Facts are facts, unfortunately.

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            Thank you! I will definitely read up on the listed studies once the holidays are over.

            I glanced at a few of the most recent studies, and something’s that stood out to me were that they delt with single locations. Usually large hospitals in or around urban areas. The studies focusing on a single geographical location without looking into confounding factors, since some of the studies aren’t about breed in the first place, limit the usefulness of their data on attacking dog breeds.

            It does point towards a trend, I am not disputing that. Maybe this is just one or two of the studies that I looked at. Anyways, have safe and pleasant holidays!

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          And I would love many things, but you don’t see me getting any of them so I don’t see why you should.

          Have fun with your furry murderer, try not to let it near any children.