Somebody needs to find whoever was responsible for the original NT task manager and learn a thing or two. That thing was bulletproof. I had servers over the years that were so broken nothing else would run but you hit CTRL-ALT-DEL and tada!
David Plummer, he has a YouTube channel “Dave’s garage” he has a couple of videos dedicated to Taskmanager and even a look at the source for his first version. That and other cool stuff on windows and other tech.
I love his channel. Very informative and entertaining.
One of his videos about task manager is one of those YouTube videos that just won’t go away from being suggested for me.
Yeah, me to, so I decided to finally watch it and decided his channel is pretty interesting. Sure he’s pretty ‘microsofty’ (i.e. not seeing any faults in the company) but other than that he presents his topics well.
TIL… Thanks for the tip. I’m going to search some of that stuff out.
He has a YouTube channel. Dave’s Garage
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And it’s really good, has some fun stories from the early days at Microsoft
for the love of god, for the past 27 years it’s been ctrl-shift-esc (since like NT 4.0), while ctrl-alt-del opens up the security menu thing. I can’t believe I’m saying this…
i thought programmers liked doing things faster
CTRL+SHIFT+ESC is simply a keyboard shortcut and is useless on a locked up system, it dies with the shell. CTRL+ALT+DEL throws a hardware interrupt, which contributed to the aforementioned bulletproof nature.
Install Linux
Steps to fix:
- Shut down your pc.
- Install a proper OS, i.e. a linux distribution.
- Be happy.
Yeah, then you’ll have 1000 other problems but not one with task manager. The best task manager in Linux is still htop because Linux doesn’t like making GUIs that are reliable and functional. Last time I was using fedora, the mouse settings GUI wouldn’t work and I had to set mouse speed in my bashrc.
Does linux have guis at all? I mean it’s just a kernel.
Linux is also a collection of distros. We don’t call them GNU/Linux distros (because they don’t have to be using GNU. Linux is just the broader term for the community and the distros the community uses. My point, clearly, is that the GUIs that are provided on the distros or in the repos, or by the community all are terrible. If you want to be pedantic further feel free but I’m not going to engage in a semantic war.
Real talk though, how long ago was that? Linux has been making improvements at a blistering pace. If it’s been a while, I’d recommend giving it another try soon.
in 2021. In 2022 I tried again with Fedora and KDE but I have an Nvidia GPU and this was around the time they just switched the default to Wayland which resulted in the liveCD hanging forever. Didn’t even get to install it again. I used to use Linux as a desktop from 2008 to 2014 but stopped because things just kept breaking on me and it was wasting my time. Eventually, my work switched to Windows, I switched to working at home and it didn’t make sense to maintain a Linux desktop that every time I booted it up, something new was broken. I’ve been checking every year into Linux since.
Fair enough. I appreciate you for trying it again every so often and not just holding a grudge because of a bad experience 5 or 10 years ago. I have faith it’ll “get there” eventually. For some of us it has, but there is obviously a ways to go before it has the ability to grab everyone. :P
Absolutely. I love Linux. I am a game developer who makes builds for Linux (not Proton). I specifically believe in Linux. That said Linux is a bit of a UX/UI trash fire and I have games to make. I’ll probably be trying again this year. I’ll probably go with Manjaro, Fedora, and OpenSuse unless you have any recommendations. What distro and DE do you use? I’ve been leaning towards KDE the last few times I tested but I really liked Fedora’s Gnome.
For game dev, try Pop OS. it has Nvidia support out of the box. Game dev has always been an issue because either card support is minimal or manufacturer just didn t care about ux for linux despite community plea (,unity s font issue)
I’ll check it out. System 76 seems great too.
I have used manjaro before and liked it a lot. Currently I’m running Garuda, but I have never used vanilla Arch so I’m honestly not 100% sure what extra Garuda brings to the table outside of a pre-customized ui and some “helper” apps - install went butter smooth and updates have been a breeze and I think that is thanks to Garuda specificly.
Personally a big fan of KDE plasma. The DE in popos was my biggest detractor but that’s just personal preference. It also probably helps that I’m on an all AMD system.
Nvidia not publishing proper open source drivers -> Linux bad
Logic
Sorry but in my field 70% of the people use Nvidia. So, yeah, Linux doesn’t support my workflow, Linux is bad. The end result is the OS doesn’t work properly. I don’t care how it needs to work. I need to know that it will work. If someone is causing it not to work, that’s on Linux still because the end result is still that Linux doesn’t work. On top of that, X11, Nvidia, and KDE worked just fine but Fedora rolled on ahead with releasing Wayland as the default when clearly it wasn’t ready.
Even outside of the Nvidia drivers through, since they now have published open-source drivers, there are still tons of issues with Linux as a whole. Multiple times I’ve seen basic GUIs either not work or not exist. A great example of this is: How do you figure out what driver the system is using without using the command line? Not just video card drivers which some distros have finally made GUIs for. No, like my mouse drivers, or the random Watcom tablet or webcam? Where do I see the “device manager”? Another great example is themes. GTK and QT themes do not play nicely together. Linux has a division within its own ecosystem. In fact, everything is divided and thus has issues inter-communicating.
This is not to mention the bugs I’ve encountered in multiple distros. In Fedora, the last time I tried, I couldn’t change my mouse settings in their GUI. I had to use bashrc and issue an x11 mouse setting command to get the mouse movement I wanted.
At the end of the day, I want to use my computer to do the thing I want to do. Not make simply using my computer a hobby in itself. This is the case for the majority of computer users.
Lastly, Linux as a community has a hard time taking absolutely valid feedback and brushing it off. I’m trying to help Linux by saying it’s terrible. I want it to be good. It can be good. Getting pushback for valid feedback isn’t going to encourage anyone to give their feedback which Linux absolutely needs more valuable feedback if it’s going to become a mainstream desktop OS.
You can only install Linux at that point
There is a reason why the task manager was largely unchanged until windows 11.
I dunno, the Win10 version seems pretty neutered compared to previous versions.
How so?
Install Task Manager Manager
Open up task manager manager
Wait, that’s illegal
htop
top
op
p
/dev/null
cat /dev/null > /dev/null
btop
You have no tasks, there’s nothing to manage. I’d say you’re done for the day.
Run new task? More like run away.
What’s the point of even “modernising” task manager?
Normies that would care about task manager being too ugly probably don’t know it even exists.
There goes the last dependable program that Windows had to offer
It happened a while ago too. Like windows 8 I think. Old task manager popped up no matter how laggy your computer was. It has some sort of highest priority and didn’t depend on much. Making it reliable. Since 8, this changed. Any changes since have been add-ons and reskins. I like how it shows things like gpu now but at what cost.
Same feeling of an extinguisher catching fire
Where is your god now?
oh hey look, another dave!
now install gentoo
Okay, I don’t think Gentoo is the best OS for beginners
But
I think people new to computers (yes, I mean kids) should be handed a computer booted off a gentoo image with the handbook and wiki.
wait a little bit, electron is still loading…
