Your 80% statistic has also been debunked. The number includes vegetarians, and the number one motivation cited was health. Saying people quit diets is not exactly groundbreaking news.
Anyway, I’ll also enjoy being healthy, strong, fertile and happy while also being vegan.
You made the blanket claim that humans need to eat animal products, yet every time you mention a necessary nutrient I provide non-animal sources, and your copy-paste statistics are blatantly misleading at best.
You keep saying that humans don’t need animal products but have yet to provide a example society who have not consumed animal products. Your Vegan brain fog has made it impossible for you to argue in good faith and likely unable to reproduce.
I appreciate the concern, but I’ve already got one kid with another on the way.
My claim was that a plant-based (no animal products) diet can be nutritionally complete. I’m backing that claim up by citing non-animal sources of nutrients.
You told me I’m incapable of arguing in good faith in the same sentence as an ad hominem. You’re not just trolling me, are you?
My claim was that a plant-based (no animal products) diet can be nutritionally complete. I’m backing that claim up by citing non-animal sources of nutrients.
And my point is that we don’t define a rule by stray data points. Even if one person manages to survive on a unnatural diet like a vegan diet without significant problems it does not make it nutritionally complete, or healthy.
There is no evidence you can produce a healthy society without animal products. Because it’s never been done. Every single body builder (usually whey protein when they started), every single Olympic athlete has eatin meat. You may be able to find 1 who is lying and said they were born vegan. I think I saw 1 athlete who said that but I don’t buy it and even 1 doesn’t disapprove the rule. Nearly if not every single high performance individual and society on the planet was built eating animals.
No amount of 20 year old made youtube videos has shown otherwise. No fat Harvard grad clinging to bad meta analysis science has shown meat to shorten a life with actual observational science. Because it doesn’t
By your logic, since you can’t produce a long term study of health outcomes for vegan populations, your claim is also void. Also, neither the article or I made any claims about the health effects of meat.
I have 10,000 years of human health outcomes to prove eating meat is healthy. I don’t need long term data to show that not eating meat, only eating candy, is unhealthy.
The fact that vegans can’t become Olympic athletes is proof it isn’t healthy.
The question was never “is meat healthy?” It’s “is eating animal products necessary for human health?” as you originally claimed. Are you still taking the position that animal products are inherently necessary for human health?
You can get plenty of beta-carotine as well as preformed vitamin A on a plant based diet: https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/vitamin-a/.
Your 80% statistic has also been debunked. The number includes vegetarians, and the number one motivation cited was health. Saying people quit diets is not exactly groundbreaking news.
Anyway, I’ll also enjoy being healthy, strong, fertile and happy while also being vegan.
Not true for all people period end of story as peer reviewed papers show. I don’t get why you npc’s keep repeating yourself without resolving points.
Haha. Did you unironically call me an NPC?
You made the blanket claim that humans need to eat animal products, yet every time you mention a necessary nutrient I provide non-animal sources, and your copy-paste statistics are blatantly misleading at best.
You keep saying that humans don’t need animal products but have yet to provide a example society who have not consumed animal products. Your Vegan brain fog has made it impossible for you to argue in good faith and likely unable to reproduce.
I appreciate the concern, but I’ve already got one kid with another on the way.
My claim was that a plant-based (no animal products) diet can be nutritionally complete. I’m backing that claim up by citing non-animal sources of nutrients.
You told me I’m incapable of arguing in good faith in the same sentence as an ad hominem. You’re not just trolling me, are you?
And my point is that we don’t define a rule by stray data points. Even if one person manages to survive on a unnatural diet like a vegan diet without significant problems it does not make it nutritionally complete, or healthy.
There is no evidence you can produce a healthy society without animal products. Because it’s never been done. Every single body builder (usually whey protein when they started), every single Olympic athlete has eatin meat. You may be able to find 1 who is lying and said they were born vegan. I think I saw 1 athlete who said that but I don’t buy it and even 1 doesn’t disapprove the rule. Nearly if not every single high performance individual and society on the planet was built eating animals.
No amount of 20 year old made youtube videos has shown otherwise. No fat Harvard grad clinging to bad meta analysis science has shown meat to shorten a life with actual observational science. Because it doesn’t
By your logic, since you can’t produce a long term study of health outcomes for vegan populations, your claim is also void. Also, neither the article or I made any claims about the health effects of meat.
I have 10,000 years of human health outcomes to prove eating meat is healthy. I don’t need long term data to show that not eating meat, only eating candy, is unhealthy.
The fact that vegans can’t become Olympic athletes is proof it isn’t healthy.
The question was never “is meat healthy?” It’s “is eating animal products necessary for human health?” as you originally claimed. Are you still taking the position that animal products are inherently necessary for human health?