Another player who was at the table during the incident sent me this meme after the problem player in question (they had a history) left the group chat.

Felt like sharing it here because I’m sure more people should keep this kind of thing in mind.

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    Hi. I have a mild physical disability, and this point comes up quite a lot in different settings, including fantasy fiction. “If such and such is a fantasy setting, why does character simply not be disabled?” Is something many able bodied people like to assume.

    Without going into how hurtful it is to assume that what all of us want is to be “able bodied”, you’re basically taking away a person’s agency to tell a story about themselves as they are. And there are many stories to be told!

    So instead of trying to use logic to negate these kinds of characters from stories and fantasy settings, I challenge you to expand your own definition of what’s possible. There’s plenty of room for all of us.

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      I have a disabled character in my world (I’m a writer, not an rpg player. My schedule sucks for it). She has a partially paralyzed lip that gives her a lisp and a scar to match. Healing could have fixed it, if she could have been healed in time. But she wasn’t.

      I also have a Deaf character who plays a major role in the story. I think we need more representation in fantasy. And as a black guy, I don’t really want to read the trials and tribulations of being black, as I’m sure other minority groups don’t. I want to read about black folk swinging swords and fighting monsters ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

      Sorry for the tangent, but yeah, I hard agree with you (☞゚ヮ゚)☞

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        Yeah, I can understand how it’s easy to get burnt out having to give an explanation every time for why a character is the way they are, it’s exhausting. There are so many challenges to fantasy writing but that shouldn’t be one of them.

        Hope you can keep writing awesome characters and stories!

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      We don’t need to shut down our ability to think critically to assuage the feelings of other people. That’s not something any of us have the right to ask regardless of our condition.

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        But by assuming everyone with a difference in ability would auto automatically want to be “cured” you are shutting down your ability to think critically already. Apart from trusting cures, apart from access to cures, many people today don’t seek them because they don’t believe they’re necessary.

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      you to expand your own definition of what’s possible.

      The irony here is palpable. You’re telling me to expand my definition of what’s possible while simultaneously telling me to curb my imagination.

      Make up your mind.

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        A) Get fucked

        B) Stop pretending it’s ok to erase people’s experiences

        C) You’ve clearly internally defined magical healing in a way that makes it somehow know in which ways a body deviates from the population median, even if it has never adhered to said median, without thinking about how it might know how to do that.

        D) Get fucked

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          I’m not trying to erase anything; I’m more encouraging these players to make their background fit the game world better because in the end, the game is just collaborative story-telling and you’re not the only writer. Just as it’s easy to fix the problem with magic, you could equally make it unfixable with magic too.

          You’ve clearly internally defined magical healing in a way that makes it somehow know in which ways a body deviates from the population median, even if it has never adhered to said median, without thinking about how it might know how to do that.

          Magic is literally capable of anything. It can grant wishes. It can raise the dead. It can cure disease. It can also cause death. Cause disease. Permanently maim and disfigure. It doesn’t need to know anything; the person performing the magic makes that determination. That’s part of what makes it magic.

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            Yup! Whenever I play in a high magic setting and want to incorporate disease, disability or death into a story, I always come up with a reason why it cannot be fixed with magic, or why the character didn’t want to/couldn’t fix it with magic.

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        You’re so casually ableist and don’t even see it. They’re telling you not everyone wants to “fix” their “disability”, they’re not saying everyone refuses.