"It affects all of us because we are essentially experiments in public roads."

Tesla Whistleblower Says ‘Autopilot’ System Is Not Safe Enough To Be Used On Public Roads::“It affects all of us because we are essentially experiments in public roads.”

  • Ottomateeverything@lemmy.worldEnglish
    352·
    11 months ago

    Unfortunately this is one of those things that you can’t significantly develop/test on closed private streets.

    Even if we hold this to be true (and I disagree in large part), the point is that Tesla’s systems aren’t at that stage yet. Failing to recognize lights correctly during live demos and such are absolutely things you can test and develop on closed streets or in a lab. Tesla’s shouldn’t be allowed on roads until they’re actually at a point where there are no glaring flaws. And then they should be allowed in smaller numbers.

    • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
      425·
      11 months ago

      Do you really think they didn’t test that before they got to this point?

      I’m willing to bet they had been through that intersection before hundreds of times and never seen this. It’s not like it can’t detect a stoplight and they’re just out there randomly running through them all.

      Of the millions of variables that were around them something blinded it to light this time. The footage from that run has probably been reviewed at nauseam at this point and is done more for them finding the problem than they could have done sitting in a closed warehouse making guesses when the car never fails to detect a red light.

      edit: look keep smacking that downvote, but it’s not going to change anything. I hate musk too, but we’re going to make progress toward automated driving unless it becomes more dangerous than existing driver. In the next generation or so, most driving will become automated and all deaths by automobiles will drop significantly. Old and young people will get where they need to go. You cannot automate driving without driving in the real world. If you think they haven’t been doing this in a simulation for a decade, you’re on crack.

      • pivot_root@lemmy.worldEnglish
        252·
        11 months ago

        I still wouldn’t trust the company with a CEO who unilaterally decided that not having redundant systems makes for a better product.

        • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
          32·
          11 months ago

          I absolutely don’t trust the CEO. I don’t even need to trust the company, there are a dozen others trying to work out the same problem.