ah yes, the 7200 terrorists, including hundreds of child terrorists. the two and a half 9/11 deaths worth of terrorists
i’m sure most of those are legitimate imprisonments that aren’t at all human rights violations, despite many of those people all not having any charges associated with their arrests. i’m sure the vastly unequal treatment of palestinians vs israelis that includes an indefinite time in captivity facing physical abuse and strip searches along with things like public and private gatherings of 10 or more people being illegal for specifically palestinians isn’t anything to worry about
Since taking hostages is a war crime, the whole “prisoners” thing is an extremely thin veil to circumvent those laws.
Extremely thin, because they use administrative detention and military courts with “secret” evidence for the few that are lucky to see a court in the first place.
Not to mention the litany of human rights violations that occurs in the prisons themselves.
Even POWs are to be treated better than the administrative detainees hostages according to the Geneva Convention on Prisoners of War.
Considering the butchering, rape, and hostages taken on October 7th and then the mistreatment of Israeli hostages in the past and present, the detention of people caught stabbing, throwing rocks, or supporting terrorist activity is warranted.
Considering that this is a population capable of butchering the equivalent of 32x 9/11 deaths (adjusting for Israeli population), and that you’re dealing with a terrorist organization known for dexapiating babies and sending it’s own children with bombs strapped to their bodies, it might be a good idea to make sure your detainees don’t have anything under their clothes…
So you’re saying that israel doesn’t have any right to protect their own people? I think you forgot to read the fact that these “childrens” must’ve done something to be put into prison or detention, either because they did some crime against israeli or by illegally staying in israel. Do you think they’re too stupid to purposely want to be hated by the whole world by jailing innocent childrens??
So you’re saying that israel doesn’t have any right to protect their own people?
Lol, this is hilarious when you consider Israel and the western world directly funded Hamas and intentionally caused his rise to power. Israel has been causing the immense suffering of Palestinians as well as muslims who are Israeli (who are second-class citizens and treated as subhuman) for decades, but they never got the “right” to defend themselves, they couldn’t defend themselves even if they wanted because they would get obliterated by a vastly superior military might. A radical reactionary government is an obvious response to a greater power oppressing them, genocidal maniacs create genocidal maniacs. Israel doesn’t give a shit about its citizens nor “self-defense”, their government wants an excuse to genocide & subjugate peoples they don’t like and take their land. It’s the modern world, you can find all the evidence like videos you want of the Israeli military blatantly committing war crimes and executing unarmed Palestinians like animals, that is not self-defense.
I think you forgot to read the fact that these “childrens” must’ve done something to be put into prison or detention, either because they did some crime against israeli
Actually no, I’m clearly the one that did the reading here because if you actually knew anything about the detention of Palestinians & other groups in Palestine, you would know that the concentration camps they’re put in don’t require any actual crimes to be committed for them to be held captive there, and there are thousands in those camps who aren’t charged with any crime at all and who weren’t arrested for a crime.
or by illegally staying in israel.
You mean the non-Israeli land that Israel is illegally occupying?
Do you think they’re too stupid to purposely want to be hated by the whole world by jailing innocent childrens??
You think other countries give a shit about crimes against humanity? They’re perfectly willing to turn a blind eye if it’s from a country they support, Germany is too afraid of seeming anti-semitic to tolerate any criticism of Israel and Israel is too strategically and ideologically important to the US (and mang others) for the US to actually take a real stance against them. Many Europeans are also fiercly anti-muslim, spurred from anti-immigrant sentiment due to a lot of 3rd worlders fleeing to Europe. And most of the other countries that are protesting their crimes against humanity don’t exactly affect Israel that much anyways, they rely mostly on countries like the US, China, Germany, etc. Many Israel-aligned countries committed and still commit war crimes all the time, and they don’t give a shit when others do it (like Vietnam when first France and then the US completely fucked up Vietnam and its environment all starting from wanting to maintain imperial holdings and then wanting to destroy the government most people supported, and the UK and rest of the NATO-aligned world supported this injustice, only Sweden protested but it didn’t change much), they only sometimes pretend to care when it’s politically or strategically beneficial.
A little horrors beyond human comprehension won’t affect relations with strongly allied or even in some cases separately-aligned nations much – remember that most of the white world, including the UK and US, was fine with or mostly apathetic towards the persecution of Jews (often turning away Jewish refugees from Nazi Germany when the ethnic cleansing was starting) until the people persecuting Jews attacked them or their allies. They didn’t take action because it would threaten their international relations. Plus look, the US unjustly jails people constantly at a much higher rate than the rest of the world including both the “civilized” and “uncivilized” countries, and for an unreasonably long duration for a lot of crimes many of which shouldn’t even be crimes, but it’s not like that is something the rest of the world actually cares about enough to do anything about.
Which land does israel occupies actually? I mean prior to this war. Gaza? Or the West Bank? Each have their own local authority and they conduct their own election (supposedly, but none was held for such a long time because of their own despute), they have their own constitution, a president and a prime minister. So can you tell me which part are being occupied?
How much do you see israel as a demon, that you cannot think of them as people who are trying to survive? I don’t know where you live, but what would you do if some of your neighbour keep trying to kill one of your family? Knowing that they once brought the whole neighbourhood to attack your home. Should you just let them do as they please?
As rule of war, israel should claim all the land of palestine, from the river to the sea, because they won the war. But they actually gave back gaza and the west bank to the palestinian, and let them have their own government. What more do you expect them to do?
I think you forgot to read the fact that these “children” must’ve done something to be put in prison or detention, either because they did some crime against israeli or by illegally staying in israel. Do you think they’re too stupid to purposely want to be hated by the whole world by jailing innocent childrens?
Bless your heart.
You think they give two shits about me and you hating them? They barely care what the US thinks of them, as long as the US remains a useful idiot that’ll veto any chance at accountability.
Netanyahu is on the record of calling the US a puppet:
I know what America is […]America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction. They won’t get in the way.
Netanyahu is one person. If you think that a whole organization from top to bottom left and right are being complicit in jailing innocent civilians. You don’t truly understand the complexity of human nature.
You should read up on what the OG Nazis got up to. Or the Japanese at around the same time. Or how Canada treated native children from like before it was a county until about 30 years ago. Or how China treats Tibetan kids or Muslims. Raw chocolate, diamond, emerald suppliers and their “employees”. US border patrol.
You must think really low of everyone here to try arguing that humans are too good to perform evils on an organizational level, because this is just scratching the surface of what groups of our species is capable of.
ah yes, the 7200 terrorists, including hundreds of child terrorists. the two and a half 9/11 deaths worth of terrorists
i’m sure most of those are legitimate imprisonments that aren’t at all human rights violations, despite many of those people all not having any charges associated with their arrests. i’m sure the vastly unequal treatment of palestinians vs israelis that includes an indefinite time in captivity facing physical abuse and strip searches along with things like public and private gatherings of 10 or more people being illegal for specifically palestinians isn’t anything to worry about
Since taking hostages is a war crime, the whole “prisoners” thing is an extremely thin veil to circumvent those laws.
Extremely thin, because they use administrative detention and military courts with “secret” evidence for the few that are lucky to see a court in the first place.
Not to mention the litany of human rights violations that occurs in the prisons themselves.
Even POWs are to be treated better than the
administrative detaineeshostages according to the Geneva Convention on Prisoners of War.Considering the butchering, rape, and hostages taken on October 7th and then the mistreatment of Israeli hostages in the past and present, the detention of people caught stabbing, throwing rocks, or supporting terrorist activity is warranted.
Considering that this is a population capable of butchering the equivalent of 32x 9/11 deaths (adjusting for Israeli population), and that you’re dealing with a terrorist organization known for dexapiating babies and sending it’s own children with bombs strapped to their bodies, it might be a good idea to make sure your detainees don’t have anything under their clothes…
So you’re saying that israel doesn’t have any right to protect their own people? I think you forgot to read the fact that these “childrens” must’ve done something to be put into prison or detention, either because they did some crime against israeli or by illegally staying in israel. Do you think they’re too stupid to purposely want to be hated by the whole world by jailing innocent childrens??
Lol, this is hilarious when you consider Israel and the western world directly funded Hamas and intentionally caused his rise to power. Israel has been causing the immense suffering of Palestinians as well as muslims who are Israeli (who are second-class citizens and treated as subhuman) for decades, but they never got the “right” to defend themselves, they couldn’t defend themselves even if they wanted because they would get obliterated by a vastly superior military might. A radical reactionary government is an obvious response to a greater power oppressing them, genocidal maniacs create genocidal maniacs. Israel doesn’t give a shit about its citizens nor “self-defense”, their government wants an excuse to genocide & subjugate peoples they don’t like and take their land. It’s the modern world, you can find all the evidence like videos you want of the Israeli military blatantly committing war crimes and executing unarmed Palestinians like animals, that is not self-defense.
Actually no, I’m clearly the one that did the reading here because if you actually knew anything about the detention of Palestinians & other groups in Palestine, you would know that the concentration camps they’re put in don’t require any actual crimes to be committed for them to be held captive there, and there are thousands in those camps who aren’t charged with any crime at all and who weren’t arrested for a crime.
You mean the non-Israeli land that Israel is illegally occupying?
You think other countries give a shit about crimes against humanity? They’re perfectly willing to turn a blind eye if it’s from a country they support, Germany is too afraid of seeming anti-semitic to tolerate any criticism of Israel and Israel is too strategically and ideologically important to the US (and mang others) for the US to actually take a real stance against them. Many Europeans are also fiercly anti-muslim, spurred from anti-immigrant sentiment due to a lot of 3rd worlders fleeing to Europe. And most of the other countries that are protesting their crimes against humanity don’t exactly affect Israel that much anyways, they rely mostly on countries like the US, China, Germany, etc. Many Israel-aligned countries committed and still commit war crimes all the time, and they don’t give a shit when others do it (like Vietnam when first France and then the US completely fucked up Vietnam and its environment all starting from wanting to maintain imperial holdings and then wanting to destroy the government most people supported, and the UK and rest of the NATO-aligned world supported this injustice, only Sweden protested but it didn’t change much), they only sometimes pretend to care when it’s politically or strategically beneficial.
A little horrors beyond human comprehension won’t affect relations with strongly allied or even in some cases separately-aligned nations much – remember that most of the white world, including the UK and US, was fine with or mostly apathetic towards the persecution of Jews (often turning away Jewish refugees from Nazi Germany when the ethnic cleansing was starting) until the people persecuting Jews attacked them or their allies. They didn’t take action because it would threaten their international relations. Plus look, the US unjustly jails people constantly at a much higher rate than the rest of the world including both the “civilized” and “uncivilized” countries, and for an unreasonably long duration for a lot of crimes many of which shouldn’t even be crimes, but it’s not like that is something the rest of the world actually cares about enough to do anything about.
Which land does israel occupies actually? I mean prior to this war. Gaza? Or the West Bank? Each have their own local authority and they conduct their own election (supposedly, but none was held for such a long time because of their own despute), they have their own constitution, a president and a prime minister. So can you tell me which part are being occupied?
How much do you see israel as a demon, that you cannot think of them as people who are trying to survive? I don’t know where you live, but what would you do if some of your neighbour keep trying to kill one of your family? Knowing that they once brought the whole neighbourhood to attack your home. Should you just let them do as they please?
As rule of war, israel should claim all the land of palestine, from the river to the sea, because they won the war. But they actually gave back gaza and the west bank to the palestinian, and let them have their own government. What more do you expect them to do?
Bless your heart.
You think they give two shits about me and you hating them? They barely care what the US thinks of them, as long as the US remains a useful idiot that’ll veto any chance at accountability.
Netanyahu is on the record of calling the US a puppet:
Keep fighting the good fight.
Netanyahu is one person. If you think that a whole organization from top to bottom left and right are being complicit in jailing innocent civilians. You don’t truly understand the complexity of human nature.
You should read up on what the OG Nazis got up to. Or the Japanese at around the same time. Or how Canada treated native children from like before it was a county until about 30 years ago. Or how China treats Tibetan kids or Muslims. Raw chocolate, diamond, emerald suppliers and their “employees”. US border patrol.
You must think really low of everyone here to try arguing that humans are too good to perform evils on an organizational level, because this is just scratching the surface of what groups of our species is capable of.