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Italy bans cultivated meat products::New law prohibits the production or sale of cultivated meat in Italy, with fines of up to €60,000
Italy is the first nation in the world to be safe from the social and economic risks of synthetic food
more like the only nation to consider all cultivated meat a problem and prohibit it instead of regulating it.
social and economic risks of synthetic food
yeah 2 things humans just will never solve for, better shut it down. shut it all down.
It’s funny how you can replace synthetic food in that sentence with almost anything and it makes as much sense as the original sentence.
prohibit it instead of regulating it.
It’s like 90% of Italy’s mindset 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
(Really tho, if we start regulating stuff there would be shit rules)
So they’re banning what’s likely the “end all, be all” meat replacement in the (hopefully not so distant) future just so that being a “livestock farmer” remains viable?
Yes but of course. “Ban the machines that can harvest our crops, we want to keep our slaves” Its so sad to see…
Communism is a hell of a drug.
You’ve demonstrated that ignorance is a hell of a problem.
Hold on, which way is communism? Banning it or not banning it?
‘In defence of health, of the Italian production system, of thousands of jobs, of our culture and tradition, with the law approved today, Italy is the first nation in the world to be safe from the social and economic risks of synthetic food,’
Health? Yeah, get back to me the next time there’s an outbreak of mad cow disease, swine flu, or bird flu and say that to my face.
Jobs? The synthetic meat isn’t going to make itself, and there will always be a market for “organic” meat in any case.
Tradition? The human race’s oldest and most persistent fallacy. The democracy of the dead.
This is shortsighted. This guys sounds exactly like the idiot lawmakers here in America who said solar panels and electric cars will never catch on, so what’s the point in investing in them now?
I wonder how much money the country makes by protecting those traditional methods of producing meats and exporting their products at high prices. Maybe that’s what they’re after. 🤔
A few individuals probably received a large payday to institute this policy.
I’m a big fan of traditional meats
We have a really stupid minister in charge of this stuff. And i mean it in the truest sense of the word, this guy has a room temperature iq.
Anyways, the sale ban will probably fail in court, the production ban will only harm the italian industry because sure as hell they can’t stop european synthetic meat from entering the country.
They can’t stop synth meat coming in at the minute, but they can after they decide to Italeave… that doesn’t sound as good as Brexit, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened.
There will be no italeave/italexit. Even the worst populist here knows it’s suicide.
The UK knew it was suicide and did it anyway.
Never underestimate the power of stupid.
Luckily while this government is stupid, they are not anti-european, so italexit is not a possibility.
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Well that’s understandable. I too want my meat to have been grown in its own shit and be pumped full of antibiotics and let’s not forget the secret incredient: cruelty.
We’re a sad country
I’m going to snap all my spaghetti in half until this is repealed.
Hot take: spaghetti is garbage tier pasta. Snap it not because of this but because it sucks
Don’t just talk shit. Tell me what (and where) pasta I should be eating, goddamnit.
I find fettuccine a better use in every way if your dish requires straight pasta (not a huge fan of angel hair). Rotini is the shit when you have a sauce that is chunky but I also use it in mac and cheese - whenever I can really. Honorary mentions to cavatappi and penne as they do a great job of soaking up that sauce with their crevices. Them saucy crevices.
Along the east, rice noodle vermicelli is fantastic; much preferred to any angel hair any day when you can use a rice noodle. Kuey Teow noodles (flat noodles) I can gorge my weight on when prepared correctly. And do not overlook a good egg noodle in a killer broth.
This is in no way an exhaustive list but I find all of these easily in US cities!
Penne gang represent!
My guy, cavatappi or die
Please. The superior rigatoni looks down on your petty bickering.
There are various types of “spaghetti”, from the thin ones to quite thick, then vermicelli, spaghetti quadrati, spaghetti alla chitarra etc…Definitely you can’t replace spaghetti with fettuccine in all instances, IMHO.
That said, I am team vermicelli (which are thicker). But spaghetti from a good pasta brand (for supermarket stuff, say Rummo, Liguori) are just another thing compared to the Barilla stuff.
Bet
I meh at your fettuccine and counter with the far superior linguini
If looking to keep the general spaghetti form, bucatini can’t be beat.
I love em
Bet. Why would you eat spaghetti when mostaccioli exists?
It’s fake, FFS.
Is that what the people want, or some big key to power that stands to inevitably lose out? If other countries transition out of meat livestock isn’t it pointless to handicap yourself?
Italian parma ham and such is quite famous and Italians seem to take their authentic cuisine very seriously. Supposedly there afraid that low quality fake meat will overrun the current market. I imagine the meet industry there is quite powerful though so assume lobbying was part of this.
Since Italians take the authenticity of foods so seriously, Prosciutto di Parma and many other foods are already protected by DOP designation.
Italy be taking a lotta L’s these days. I wonder who they will side with in WW3?
Hey now, they were on the winning side during WW1. That’s something.
Don’t they have a volcano about to decimate them?
Hey now, they were on the winning side during WW1. That’s something.
Hey now, they were on the winning side during WW1. That’s something.
They’ve cited health, yet I can’t seem to find the health risk argument. Other than that, standard Italian politics where representatives are changed quite often.
“health” was the answer to the question that followed “what do you mean we have to provide a citation?”
Reactionaries opposing technological innovations that would prevent suffering because they’re not ‘natural’. Color me surprised.
Italy you say? The one EU member that has repeatedly used its power to lock down ag requirements and protections for it own foods for the other member states?
The only upside is that gabbagol is delicious, and who would want to fuck that up?
Slightly off-topic, but, is there a Lemmy community for cellular agriculture, akin to r/wheresthebeef? That’s one of the few remaining subreddits I haven’t found a Lemmy replacement for yet.
You have piqued my interest. Is this something people do at home? Grow their own meats?
Sounds gross. I’m totally in.
Is this something people do at home Grow their own meats?
Not yet, and possibly not ever. Most current development is limited to academic institutions and small startup companies. But who knows what the future brings? Perhaps one day people will grow steaks at home similar to how one might ferment their own beer or yogurt. My guess is that it would be more trouble than it’s worth for the average people though.
I upvoted the post so others see it, but I do not like that they’re banning it. That’s poopy garbage ass.
ahah why? is this a religious thing or a socio-political thing?
answer:
When the ban was proposed earlier this year, Lollobrigida had indicated that its main goal was to protect Italian farmers.