Podcast Doug and car guy Doug is way way better than used car salesman Doug.

I know this sub has cooled on him and Matt is well Matt but honestly this was one of the best car related listens for me this year.

I also love it when throttle house goes on smoking tire podcast.

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    Usually they use the excuse of “I listen to this podcast to escape politics”.

    Terrible take. No, this is not why people don’t like listening to his political views.

    I really enjoy his podcasts and videos, but whenever politics comes up it’s by far the worst part about his entire platform and extremely insufferable for two reasons. Note that this is coming from someone who agrees with the majority of his political views too.

    1. His content is not political content so he should stay in his lane unless he puts effort in. If he wants to not do that and talk about politics, honestly that’s not even a problem, but then he should be setting up the stage to actually talk politics. He doesn’t set up the stage for an actual discussion or his viewpoint to be challenged. He just makes strong statements and either has people on who already agree or kind of strong-arms them into not saying anything by being combative with his statements.
    2. Whenever politics comes up, he often has the insufferable attitude that is prevalent on the internet, where he will take the opposing argument in bad faith, and present it as “I’m a good person for having this viewpoint - you’re a bad person if you have the other viewpoint.” It comes across as insecure and also contributes to the current social disaster of radical tribalism due to social media, which is just ironic in of itself to call others bad people while being a person with influence contributing to damaging the fabric of society.
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      Stick to cars car monkey!!!1! God it’s so tired. Cars are (very) political and unfortunately politics are important and relevant to car culture.

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        I mean if you want to cherry pick a specific phrasing I used instead of addressing the main point, then you should reconsider what your point even is or if you’re just having an emotional moment and felt the need to have a Redditor take and make a flippant gotcha comment to feel good about yourself.

        I don’t like it when Matt has self-righteous and judgmental moments where he attacks people who hold the opposing belief, and not the argument itself, that don’t agree with his stance on certain political topics. It’s disrespectful, and yelling it out in spaces where no one will rebut is cowardly.

        Saying “I agree with doing A over B” is respectful to people who believe the opposite and then moving on to his cars topic is fine. Saying “We should do A and people who want to do B are terrible people” is not respectful. It’s his platform and he can say the latter if he wants, but it’s just very obviously distasteful to simultaneously be so adamant and assertive in your stance that you dehumanize others with a different opinion, yet never open himself up for said views to be challenged respectfully as a topic. Simply put, “don’t dish it out if you can’t take it”.

        It’s especially unpalatable given that a lot of the time for how judgmental he comes off you can find examples of him being a hypocrite to his own stances, as other people in this topic have given.

        If you think this type of behaviour is acceptable just because the stances he’s taking are ones you agree with, then you need to go touch grass and get off social media echo chambers.

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        I mean if you want to cherry pick a specific phrasing I used instead of addressing the main point, then you should reconsider what your point even is or if you’re just having an emotional moment and felt the need to have a Redditor take and make a flippant gotcha comment to feel good about yourself.

        I don’t like it when Matt has self-righteous and judgmental moments where he attacks people who hold the opposing belief, and not the argument itself, that don’t agree with his stance on certain political topics. It’s disrespectful, and yelling it out in spaces where no one will rebut is cowardly.

        Saying “I agree with doing A over B” is respectful to people who believe the opposite and then moving on to his cars topic is fine. Saying “We should do A and people who want to do B are terrible people” is not respectful. It’s his platform and he can say the latter if he wants, but it’s just very obviously distasteful to simultaneously be so adamant and assertive in your stance that you dehumanize others with a different opinion, yet never open himself up for said views to be challenged respectfully as a topic. Simply put, “don’t dish it out if you can’t take it”.

        It’s especially unpalatable given that a lot of the time for how judgmental he comes off you can find examples of him being a hypocrite to his own stances, as other people in this topic have given.

        If you think this type of behaviour is acceptable just because the stances he’s taking are ones you agree with, then you need to go touch grass and get off social media echo chambers.