The draw of a small car is a small price. 39k isnt small. Add to that a pretty small range and yeah… Not surprised it didnt sell well. It couldnt compete with cars in its price range, and it couldnt compete with cars in its class. A shame, but not a surprise.
I was screaming at Honda for this car. Finally said fuck it and got a Model Y, and got one of the first CyberTrucks on pre order. Honda you suck, and this car brought back childhood memories, we could have had something.
I mean, true, but a small charge rate isnt that big of an issue if the battery is also small. It just gets difficult if the two dont match up well.
That said, at that price, they couldve added that small QoL thing…
Well yes and no. A poor charge rate on a small battery means it will probably charge, from a SoC perspective, as fast as a bigger vehicle with a faster charge rate…but it’s adding effective range more slowly - and considering you need to stop more frequently, it compounds the disadvantage.
True. Though it only becomes a problem with longer travel distances, where youd require more than one stop to charge. And at that point, the size of the battery is a larger annoyance I reckon.
I don’t know how they fucked up the efficiency. The EV version is also terrible at 16.1 kWh/ 100 km. It should be easy to get much lower than that with such a light car. Maybe the onboard inverter is too inefficient?
I don’t think the Honda e was a compliance car, since compliance cars were a thing for the US/California market and the Honda e was never sold here.
It was more a “city car” in the vein of the original BMW i3 BEV, the i3 had about an 80km range when introduced. It was never considered a compliance car.
The draw of a small car is a small price. 39k isnt small. Add to that a pretty small range and yeah… Not surprised it didnt sell well. It couldnt compete with cars in its price range, and it couldnt compete with cars in its class. A shame, but not a surprise.
39k??!! What are they smoking… ugh, it’s so cool looking, wish we had them in the states (at a reasonable cost).
I was screaming at Honda for this car. Finally said fuck it and got a Model Y, and got one of the first CyberTrucks on pre order. Honda you suck, and this car brought back childhood memories, we could have had something.
Good luck with your truck then.
In Portugal the prices start at 47k usd for the base model…
What a cute car though!!
You’re forgetting the small 46kW charge rate - so you’re not recharging very fast when you inevitably don’t get very far.
It’s such a cute, quirky, utterly perplexing car.
Japanese companies seem to have a really hard time grasping what Europeans or North Americans want from EVs.
Japanese companies are largely still in the hydrogen camp
Which is going so well for them
I mean, true, but a small charge rate isnt that big of an issue if the battery is also small. It just gets difficult if the two dont match up well. That said, at that price, they couldve added that small QoL thing…
Well yes and no. A poor charge rate on a small battery means it will probably charge, from a SoC perspective, as fast as a bigger vehicle with a faster charge rate…but it’s adding effective range more slowly - and considering you need to stop more frequently, it compounds the disadvantage.
True. Though it only becomes a problem with longer travel distances, where youd require more than one stop to charge. And at that point, the size of the battery is a larger annoyance I reckon.
And that’s only up to 60% or so; the charging curve is unfortunately quite poor.
…and easier to find street parking.
…and easier to fit in all types of garages and parking lots.
…and less weight to damage your driveway and public roads.
…and easier/less stressful to maneuver on narrow streets.
…and nimbler and more responsive to drive.
…and higher efficiency with lower refuel costs.
…and better for the environment with less materials used and less emissions created.
…and better visibility with smaller blind spots.
…and safer for everyone around you, less likely to crash, and less fatal if you do crash.
Good points actually. But those are things you need to think about first. Price is an immediate, obvious benefit. :)
Ye olde Smart Car problem:
“Wow, that’s a cute little car, must’ve been pretty cheap, huh?”
“Nah, it was $30K. Same as a Honda Civic, with a quarter the space and none of the bells and whistles.”
“…”
Honda are costliest bare bones car you can buy
Also, “it must get great gas mileage”, nope 36mpg (EPA rating in the US). Worse than my Ford fiesta at the time which was 14k (back in 2014).
I don’t know how they fucked up the efficiency. The EV version is also terrible at 16.1 kWh/ 100 km. It should be easy to get much lower than that with such a light car. Maybe the onboard inverter is too inefficient?
It’s so cute tho 😭
Even at that price they were still making a loss, they didn’t want to sell any. A compliance car and nothing else.
I don’t think the Honda e was a compliance car, since compliance cars were a thing for the US/California market and the Honda e was never sold here.
It was more a “city car” in the vein of the original BMW i3 BEV, the i3 had about an 80km range when introduced. It was never considered a compliance car.
Not sure about making a loss, thatd depend on how you calculate it… Fully agreed on compliance car though.