• LichbaneLB@lemmy.world
    615·
    1 year ago

    For anyone else wondering, this is a X11 vs Wayland meme - i.e. desktop window managers. Yeah.

    • TurboWafflz@lemmy.world
      21·
      1 year ago

      Neither of them are window managers, they are windowing systems. A window manager is the part that actually lets you move around windows and draws the borders and stuff, like kwin, mutter, xfwm, i3, etc

    • XEAL@lemm.ee
      8·
      1 year ago

      Y’all arguing about window managers and I’m just trying to connect my shit-ass bt headset to my PC.

      • glibg10b@lemmy.ml
        17·
        1 year ago

        No, Wayland is just a protocol, and the things that implement it are compositors, not WMs

        Also, there’s no such thing as a DWM, except for the WM called dwm

  • michel@friend.ketterle.ch
    1·
    9 months ago

    @Klaymore
    Two Questions:
    * Why is it needed to set up resolutions If you work with screens in these Modern days. There should only be zooming?
    * I have two screens one HD and one 4K. Why could I not set both screens as same physical high or same width?

  • Arghblarg@lemmy.ca
    724·
    1 year ago

    I’m starting to think Wayland is the systemd of desktop graphic environments. Might be amazing eventually, but pushed onto the community too soon by opinionated devs who have fallen victim to the second-system effect.

    Mod me down, don’t care.

    Edit: Woohoo, into the ground! Mod me down further, and I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine :p

    I don’t troll often, but when I do… it’s about Wayland and systemd. Nyah nyah.

    Honestly if Wayland will work 100% on my next setup and apps appear as expected, I won’t give a damn what system I’m using.

    • marcos@lemmy.world
      13·
      1 year ago

      It was pushed way too soon. It’s just not too soon anymore, that’s why everybody is moving now.

      • Arghblarg@lemmy.ca
        4·
        1 year ago

        I sincerely hope it turns out to be the case. I don’t pretend I haven’t torn out my hair on multiple occasions fighting with xorg.conf… that’s for sure.

        Just being provocative for the lulz on a memepost, mostly :)

    • SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml
      12·
      1 year ago

      I actually quite like Wayland. I have not had a problem. Except with the discord application cause they are too lazy to fix their screen recording bug

      • Arghblarg@lemmy.ca
        2·
        1 year ago

        :) I’ll try it again, promise. I just didn’t have a good experience around two years ago. I do hear it’s much better now.

        I’ll confess I’ve avoided systemd to this day however. Devuan/Funtoo are fine, and I don’t miss any of the supposed improvements systemd brings. So I’ll probably be rocking Wayland/open-rc or Wayland/sysv-init until I drop dead.

        • DoomBot5@lemmy.worldEnglish
          62·
          1 year ago

          Systemd is great for process management. It’s fault is trying to do too much.

            • taladar@sh.itjust.works
              4·
              1 year ago

              I don’t think you can change foundational architectural things like that in a fork. A lot of systemd’s strengths also come from the integration of doing many things, e.g. process management and the sandboxing features together are certainly easier to read and write than having the process management call some sort of external sandboxing tool (potentially multiple nested ones) with a bazillion parameters all in the ExecStart line of the systemd unit.

    • glibg10b@lemmy.ml
      24·
      1 year ago

      I like both Wayland and systemd

      Name one init system that boots as fast as systemd on a modern distro with many services. Then name a display server that’s actually easy to maintain and to develop client applications for

      The current issues with Wayland are due to it being new, X11 fanboys not wanting to explore the idea of contributing to Wayland, and client applications that are poorly designed

      • taladar@sh.itjust.works
        51·
        1 year ago

        X11 fanboys not wanting to explore the idea of contributing to Wayland,

        People have tried that, those projects are all dead for 3-5 years now because Wayland’s design turned out to be so much more flawed than originally expected with its “Oh, you know all that stuff the X server used to do, you now have to do all of that yourself in your compositor even though you don’t care about any of it and there is no benefit from having multiple implementations” approach.