It took a few months preparation but I deleted all my google accounts today, and it feels good.
Now, send a gpdr deletion request because Google still has your data.
It’s going to be difficult after deleting the account though
Difficult but legally required by them, including establishing your bona fides.
Do you have any guides or tips?
A lot of (all?) email services will allow you to forward your mail from Gmail. My advice would be set that up, have all of them going to a specific folder, and only use your new email moving forward. No harm in allowing some email forwarding while you adjust for the next 6 to 12 months. But that way you can also immediately stop using Gmail itself.
Gdrive unless it is really baked into your daily life in a complicated way, it’s pretty easy to replace. Lots of great services out there.
Proton mail allowed me to export my Google Calendar over with just a few clicks. So that was pretty painless. I’m sure there are other calendar services like that. YMMV.
Google maps is tough lol
For the google maps, it helps for us to contribute to Open Street Maps through recording with Mapillary or making edits in our community.
Is the app itself ready for prime time yet? Can I use it daily? I live in a small but major city.
If you can contribute, that would be great. Especially business names and addresses. The best thing I have found to do is get an address from a place via the internet and plug that into gps-coordinates.net and use the first 7 numbers like 31.12345 -82.12345 into osmand when navigating. Then when i arrive i add it to osm so nobody can claim i stole data from another mapping service.
Sounds good!
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There’s several apps to use open street map data. Organic Maps and OSMAnd to name a few. I use a bit of both along with Waze when needed.
Thanks! You too LWD!
I’ve tried them and prefer Magic Earth.
Also, you can contribute to make the maps more complete with Street Complete.
Magic Earth is proprietary FYI. Good privacy policy and good service, only real problem I have is its not FOSS.
Congratulations! That’s awesome! I’ve been Google-free for 2-3 years, but I haven’t been brave enough to finally delete Gmail. I keep worrying I might need the message history one day?
Regarding Maps: I use OrganicMaps as my main, & I reflex to Gmaps WV when something isn’t in OrganicMaps. I feel this is a reasonable privacy-friendly compromise.
I’m not 100% but I am close. Off gdrive, off gcal, off chrome, almost entirely off gmail. I’ll check out the maps!
You can transfer your entire Gmail email history to your new service very easily
Oh yeah? I didn’t know that. I’ll have to look into it, thanks!
Google maps is tough lol
You could try to see if you’d like Magic Earth. It’s proprietary, but has a good privacy policy, uses Open Street Maps, and has traffic data.
Though if you’re dependent on Google Maps for reviews and photos of places, then it’s much harder to replace. Though I guess you could just use the website to look that up.
Just dug through a lemmy thread of recommended android apps a minute ago and found someone recommending Organic Maps. Pretty damn good compared to some others I’ve seen!
And of course, popping into streetcomplete here and there and contributing some data helps sharpen the data 🙂
A guide? Sure! Go to the account settings and click “Delete my account”
So helpful
This makes as much sense as telling somebody to delete all of the contents on their failing hard drive before transferring them to a new one
Would you be able to let us know the services you used, the replacements, and how did the migration process work?
Here are the things I replaced my Google/Microsoft/Meta services with:
- Tuta(nota): Email
- Nextcloud: Cloud
- Typst: LaTeX/Docs alternative
- LineageOS: Degoogled Android rom
- Aurora Store: Google Play Store alternative
- NewPipe, Odysee, Peertube: YouTube alternatives
- Firefox: Chrome/Chromium alternative
- SearXNG: Meta search engine
- Linux/BSD: Windows alternatives
- Bitwarden: Password manager & 2FA client
- OpenStreetMaps (OsmAnd): Google maps replacement
- LibreTranslate, Deepl: Google translate alternative
- Signal, SimpleX, Briar, Matrix: chat and group organization
DO NOT FORGET TO MIGRATE ACCOUNTS BEFORE DELETING
StreetComplete is a great app to help contribute to OpenStreetMaps
Proton for email and cloud storage. Graphenos on a pixel 7a for phone. Phone spps from aurora and fdroid. Kagi.com paid search engine too.
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Protonmail is a free service with an optional subscription for extra features you almost certainly won’t need
This. I used it for multiple months on the free plan and it worked perfectly.
Does skiff work?
Seconded.
Without a single word on replacements for email, calendar, phone, etc… this post is pretty much useless to everyone else than the OP.
I replaced most of that with proton mail and grapheme is which ironically requires a pixel
No sandboxed Google Play services yet? Can be challenging without.
not sure if this helps, but i believe using a separate android profile/user is the same as sandboxing, although less convenient
See above. Plus I use Thunderbird for calendar.
Great, thanks!
How does Thunderbird work for you wrt to sharing calendars with others (eg. family) and syncing with eg. an Outlook calendar?
I only use Thunderbird calendar for myself so I don’t know. Proton includes a calendar offering in their package but I have not tried it yet.
Welcome to the club.
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You can actually use windows without an account. When installing windows, they will force you to log in. But If you simply use an account that has been blocked it will create a local user instead of an online user. People use no@thankyou.com and it works well
Thanks for the tip!
Or just don’t connect the PC to the internet during the installation.
Or, when it looks like you no longer have a choice, click Back and you will then be given that choice.
I feel like Amazon would be easier than MS and Google, wouldn’t it?
Yep, after you realize the majority of the stuff you can buy of Amazon is mass produced trash with zero quality. It was easy to remove.
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Yeah. Deleting accounts, easy enough. Boycotting, much less-so.
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Microsoft is already done same with google I have like one niche product that I have not found a place outside of lime a singular stellar on Amazon to buy from
but i don’t want to lose my ability to play minecraft
(yes i know about minetest)
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Welcome to the real world.
You think that’s air you’re breathing?
Let’s not go all the way down the rabbit hole in one pill. Steps of one less person so inured (Definition: Made tough by habitual exposure), so hopelessly dependent on Google.
What are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge bullets?
This is a daunting proposition, I’m admittedly massively invested in Google’s ecosystem. Gmail and Google calendar, I have a pixel phone, watch and buds and have YouTube premium. I feel like the time I switch is when I have a homelab and am able to find open source alternatives to everything heavily use and be able to do so with all devices I use.
Use newpipe anad install grapheneos on your pixel. I wish i had a pixel to install grapheneos.
I have one and do so. It’s pretty great. I will admit I still have some google services on it, but I’m working on not needing those.
Some are easier than others. Especially if you don’t mind paying. Protonmail, calendar, drive solve some big ones right away. Maps is tough though, I’ve tried to find a better solution and haven’t been able to so far.
I’ve been mapping my city with streetcomplete and using osmand live to download my edits, organic maps has a better address search though, so I use that too. I don’t use the live traffic stuff, but osmand is capable of it.
Well done!
I ended up keeping mine for occasional things like leaving YT comments or subscribing to Firebase-distributed apps.
Any suggestions on starting this process? I have a Raspberry Pi and was looking into self-hosted Google Drive/Photos/Gmail replacement. Best FOSS replacements?
Look up Syncthing and then never stop trying to replace closed source and paid software/services. Like any time you launch something ask yourself “does this hit the same way as when I swapped to Syncthing?” If the answer is no you then put “[name of thing you want to replace] foss alternative” into your search engine of choice. You’ll end up down so many rabbit holes, but you’ll come out the other side a whole lot better at making your technology work for you, not the company that made it, and with a suite of free open sourced tools you are in complete control of.
Here are some tools I use that are super easy to get going.
- Syncthing (cloud storage replacement)
- KeepassXC or Pass if you’re a command line person (locally stored password manager, coupled with Syncthing you have your own private cloud password manager
- Tailscale/wireguard (private VPN that allows you to easily connect all your devices without exposing any of the traffic to The Internet)
- PiHole (a DNS sinkhole that blocks a lot of ads and tracking on your entire network, bonus points if you set it as you Tailscale DNS provider to give all your devices ad block no matter where you are as long as the device was a connected to Tailscale)
Those are the ones that got me going and I personally believe act as a solid core. Most people will find all of those useful. Other services are more user specific, but that’s a lightweight bundle of software that your RPi will handle well. Much more and you might want to look at beefier hardware.
It’s a bit newer, but Immich is a very promising Google Photos replacement.
I recommend setting up a NextCloud server.
Welcome to the degoogled fold 🤗
Serious question; what do you use for OAuth?
OAuth? Do you mean 2FA? OAuth just requires you to be able to open a URL so all you need a browser. (see the OAuth flow)
No I mean all those web services that only allow you to use OAuth to sign in and don’t give you the option of creating a username/password combo.
I haven’t encountered such a service that I cannot live without --> I don’t use it. To be honest, I can’t even remember such a service.
I’m considering it. Youtube just removed a comment of mine calling an elon simp a cracker for “harassment”
Really it’s just about the last straw, they passively protect billionaires but will let outright hate speech stay up. They also advertise nazis.
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Would you prefer I call you a gringo, then?
Jokes aside, Youtube doesn’t consider cracker to be a slur (because it’s not) I didn’t break the rule for Hate Speech I broke the rule for Harassment because I was mean to a billionaire. This is a repeated behavior on the site, where they’ll peckerwood for rich people.
No, cracker, you are not the victim of racism.
I can’t wait to graduate college so I can stop using my Google account. I still have to use mine for the online office suite. I use LibreOffice if it’s just me but I have to collaborate and do group assignments on Google Docs and Slides too.
It’s a nice journey, and you can also start to look into proxmox for self hosting things. It really feels amazing to have your own little lab of stuff rather than using the public web for all services.
Congratulations
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