Went on business travel to CA this month and decided to try driving a Tesla to see what it was like. Big mistake… coming home to my civic is painful. Coworkers told me a lot of my gripes like lack of buttons wear off after a month or so. I was already all in on electric for when my car eventually died but god, idk how long I will be able to stay ICE. Anyone else have similar experiences on test drives?

    • in_allium@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      As a near-future likely EV buyer who wants a M3-style car but is a bit wary of Tesla because it’s run by a loony – what are the “failure modes” of getting musked? What goes wrong?

      • meshreplacer@alien.topBEnglish
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        10 months ago

        So many, search for got musked. And the stories could fill enough pages to fill out the encyclopedia Britannica.

      • EaglesPDX@alien.topBEnglish
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        10 months ago

        As a near-future likely EV buyer who wants a M3-style car but is a bit wary of Tesla because it’s run by a loony – what are the "failure modes

        None really. 128,000 and no real issues. Battery has degraded from 2019 310 to 2023 275. That is a bit on the high side but expected. On top of that actual range is about 10% less than stated.

        The issues with the Tesla are the lack of essential safeties and controls.

        1. No blind sport alert
        2. No rear cross traffic alert.
        3. Phantom braking on cruise control.
        4. Undependable lane keep alert.
        5. No essential controls. Trying to get heater to work defrosting and heating car in 20F and snowstorm while driving is worth your life.
        6. Single touch screen control is txting while driving.
        7. Windshield wiper/washing doesn’t work for driver’s side.
        8. Lack of rear windshield wiper.
        • meshreplacer@alien.topBEnglish
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          10 months ago

          Sounds like you got musked. All the cost cutting to provide a minimum viable product is why you get things like phantom breaking with cruise control when this has been a solved issue with other car manufacturers.

          No essential controls that even a 22K Corolla comes with is another cost cutting measure.

          • EaglesPDX@alien.topBEnglish
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            10 months ago

            Sounds like you got musked.

            In a way, yes as the lack of basics like BLIS and RCTA are due entirely to Musk personal views vs. what customers want and proven safety features and the low cost to provide them.

        • in_allium@alien.topBEnglish
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          10 months ago

          This is good to see. None of those things except (6) and (7) bother me much.

          In my current car the blind spot alert is a mirror and turning my head. There’s no phantom braking because there is no cruise control. There’s no rear wiper either.

          So I’m not bothered by the lack of techno-fancy; “minimum viable product” is in fact what I want to buy.

          • EaglesPDX@alien.topBEnglish
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            10 months ago

            In my current car the blind spot alert is a mirror and turning my head.

            Good reason to make sure your next car has one of the top accident prevention safeties, the Blind Spot Information System (BLIS).

            Same for Rear Cross Traffic Alert.

            Each shows a 30% reduction in two of the most common accidents.

            Lane keeping alerts, which are weak in Tesla, sometimes giving an alert, sometimes letting the car drift into oncoming traffic, is another safety Tesla doesn’t do well, if at all.