Just got a new EV in WI & got a bill for an EV surcharge that looks like it’s going to be an annual registration fee of $175. Was curious about comparison states, it looks like MN is extra $75 & IL $100. What does your state charge? Anyone’s state basing their fees on weight or all flat rates?

  • Odd-Hovercraft-7531@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    The $175 is a little more than what the Wisconsin gas tax was on my ICE daily commuter ($150 assuming a generous 10,000 miles per year @ 22 mpg), but when you consider the federal tax on top of that I’m also not paying now I come out a little ahead. Obviously that won’t be true for a more fuel efficient vehicle, but the math works out for a 15 year old mid size SUV.

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    10 months ago

    I’m surprised some states aren’t taxing unleaded paint to appease lead manufacturers.

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    10 months ago

    Yup, same here in Texas; they recently added an extra $200 for annual registration, and gave state workers parental leave but specifically and deliberately excluded public university employees (who are also state workers). Terrible, makes me want to move out of here.

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    10 months ago

    LOL Nevada bases theirs on vehicle MSRP and age so you get wildly different registrations. My wife’s 1972 GMC C1500 is $35/year. My 1977 Mercedes Benz 6.9 was (RIP) $55/year. My 2021 base model Nissan Leaf was ~$250/year. My Subaru Ascent was ~$550/year. My 2021 Mustang Mach E GTPE was >$800 this year - almost $900.

    I would be okay paying up to a $200/year surcharge. We have no income tax in Nevada, generally low taxes all around, and I don’t pay any fuel taxes as we have a Bolt EUV and Mach E now and we only take the C1500 a few times a year. I have no problem contributing to the roads.

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    10 months ago

    EV’s avoid gas taxes that are critical for our roads and infrastructure. They need to pay their fair share of taxes.

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    10 months ago

    The US Federal Tax on gasoline is $0.184/gallon and the AVERAGE State Tax is $0.154/gallon. They say the average US Citizen drives 12-15K miles a year and the average mpg in 2022 is 26.4. So that’s 454 - 568 gallons of gas on average. So States are losing an average of $70 (454x$0.154) to $87 (568x$0.154) in Tax Revenue to EV drivers. Anything higher than the average lost revenue is pro-Oil/anti-EV gouging. Some have argued that EVs weigh more and damage roads more than ICE vehicles but the best selling vehicle in the USA, the Ford F-150, weighs between 4,000 and 5,700 lbs. My Tesla Model 3 weighs 3,600 lbs and my Ford Mustang Mach E weighs 4,600 lbs so that argument is invalid.

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    10 months ago

    I just paid the registration on my 2023 Ioniq 5 SEL in WA and all in, I paid over $900. It’s nuts.

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    10 months ago

    $75 in Nebraska

    $200 in Texas

    More than offset by the lack of state and federal fuel taxes for most drivers.

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      10 months ago

      Which kind of amazes me considering how anti-EV the state is. I would bet good money that will change next session.

      I’ll renew in February for two years “just in case”, but they’ll probably make it retroactive 😏

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    10 months ago

    Indiana increases from $150 to $221 for EVs in 2024. Hybrids and plug-in hybrids go from $50 to $74/yr.

    From a ‘tax’ standpoint, PHEV driven mostly on electric is the best deal. They call it a road ‘fee,’ not a ‘tax.’ Semantics is how they get around charging standard hybrids anything, and this should be unconstitutional, according to Indiana’s equal protection clause. No one has yet taken it to court.

    I hope someone in states that now tax L2 public charging sessions challenges the legality of required metering to collect the tax. If a business or non-profit wants to give away free charging as a perk, they have every right to.