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- electricvehicles@gearhead.town
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My only comment is about range… If there’s no other (online) charging within range of where you’re going, and you HAVE to charge to 100% to get to the nearest one, then…
If you need to go above 90% to get to your destination, the likelihood of there not being an online Supercharger on the way to your destination is almost 0% these days. The network is extremely dense, and also extremely reliable.
And in those exceptionally rare circumstances where that’s not the case, you just have to spend a few extra bucks.
Tell me you live near one of the coasts without telling me you live near one of the coasts.
FWIW, there are plenty of places in the country where this is true. But once you get, say, a few hundred miles east of the Pacific Ocean, things can get significantly worse.
I took a trip this morning that didn’t have a single charger above 50kw for a 196 mile stretch. We’ve got another semi-frequent road trip route that’s 260 miles between DCFC locations.
I’m in favor of this in principle, and things are definitely getting better, but there are still places where charging to 100% is gonna be a requirement, especially in winters when many of those places overlap with “places with quite cold winters.”
and you HAVE to charge to 100% to get to the nearest one
the US doesn’t have charing networks like other places. it’s not a hard problem to solve. Tesla is not the only player.
Buc-ee’s and Mercedes-Benz partner to create new electric vehicle charging network
https://www.statesman.com/story/business/2023/11/17/new-ev-changing-network-coming-to-buc-ees-after-deal-with-mercedes/71611203007/
Shell has committed to becoming a net zero emissions business by 2050 or sooner, in step with society, and to operating 500,000 chargers globally by 2025. As Shell Recharge Solutions, the company will bring the EV charging expertise and solutions that will help ensure delivery on these transformative commitments and accelerate continued expansion of electric mobility in North America.
This is actually a really good idea
This actually makes a lot of sense, above 90% charges at a much slower pace and is worse for the battery. I rarely supercharge over 80%. Super chargers are spaced closely enough that you can charge very quickly from 20-80% and be on your way. Tesla is now thinking about supercharger vehicle throughput with NACS adoption becoming mainstream.
We need overstay fees in UK. People just leave their car at 100% blocking the charger at a busy hub
It’s truly amazing how everyone “knows” people they feel inconvenienced by are all charging to 100%. I have exactly zero times had someone approach me at a charger. Mind your business and stop being a whiny baby if you end up having to wait. The entitlement of these owners is amazing. Geez.
Extremely cheap charging and extremely expensive idle fees is the winning ticket for public charging imo. Ideally charging should be very slightly more expensive than home charging.
These are going to be highly used stations, charging past 80% is pointless, Tesla is building out 50+ locations per month, with 8+ stalls per location, so I don’t expect this to be much of an issue when you travel.
Good move. But I look forward to the day when battery technology has progressed to the point where we have flat charging curves at 150kW or more. Then it wouldn’t be an issue in the first place.
Should be a standard for all chargers.
Good idea with GM, Ford, Rivian et al about to get access to the Tesla chargers. We are going to need things to speed up charging cycles.
Though in Winter when its very cold and snowy roads, Tesla’s will have to charge to 100% to make it to the next charger so that extra 10% could be $20 surcharge.
All the Tesla stans: That’s just good business because you don’t have to charge to 100% and people are waiting.
In QC’s Circuit Électrique, charging fees are doubled over 90%
Honestly, every charger should have a feature that charges people for occupying a stall when not charging or when staying too long after fully charging.
They already charge you if you stay after charging stops.
This is a new charge that nails you for sitting there for an extra 30 minutes to go from 90-100%, when others are waiting.
If you get 3 miles per KWh, you would need 50 Kwh to get to the next charger or 60kwh to go a little more. So you are paying $25 already. So, what is this $1 will make a difference?
I like how it is no longer at all less expensive to own an EV for the average person.
They’re doing a great job convincing people it’s a good idea… 😊