• TelevisionObvious460@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Here’s what I believe : yes, sideloading is a security issue and will never not be. However, this applies to every platform. Using this as a justification for not allowing it is like using terrorism as a justification for locking yourself up in a door-less, window-less room for the rest of your life. Would it be safer? Yes. Would it be a good experience? No.

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    1 year ago

    “That’s a great misunderstanding – and one we have tried to explain over and over."

    “See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.” --George W Bush

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    1 year ago

    I’m just hoping for Emulators. Can’t imagine what the 15 Pro can do with emulators, it’s gonna be a beast with a backbone.

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      Probably not a lot. It is an apple product and i am sure tim cook will find a way to stop people from emulating stuff that he doesnt want to

    • -K9V@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Download an emulator and find out. You don’t need to wait. You can use AltStore which is free, or pay for a signing service like Signulous which, in my opinion, is worth the $20 yearly fee. With AltStore you need to refresh the certificate every 7 days which is relatively easy, whereas with Signulous you don’t have to do anything.

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      1 year ago

      I have an iPhone 8 and it can already run up to Wii games really well so I imagine that the 15 will be really good with upscaled graphics and such

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      1 year ago

      We all know why they don’t want sideloading they just aren’t going to say it out loud

  • ZippoS@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Should side-loading be allowed? From a consumer point of view, absolutely.

    Will it also be a nightmare for Apple? Also yes. Just wait till boomers and dumb teenagers load malware onto her iPhone and some poor schmuck at the Apple Store has to deal with it. Keeping the iPhone locked to the App Store is far simpler for Apple and makes the phones more reliable. It’s also hella profitable.

    For those of us who know what we’re doing, it would be awesome to have access to apps that Apple might not otherwise not allow. It’ll also give developers more freedom.

    But you gotta remember that the general population is dumb and does dumb shit.

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      1 year ago

      It’s easy to manage the situation in reality, when you download from third party sources you put a disclaimer that warns of the possible consequences, if there are problems Apple washes its hands of it and off you go

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    Apple shouldn’t be the one who devices what the users end up actually using… they should compete to have the best product, and let the users decide for themselves.

    • -K9V@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      No, it’s not. I don’t think you really know anything about sideloading if you think it’s right.

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        1 year ago

        In my phone, I prefere the Apple App Store, I feel more safe. If you prefere a sideload, no problem

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    1 year ago

    I think whenever sideloading becomes a thing the most reasonable solution to me is to make it only doable by injection through a program on a Mac or pc.

    It would still allow anyone that really wants to get a program to have it, and the program itself could still self update without having to plug back in, but it would add that one extra step that would keep your average person from accidentally downloading something they shouldn’t.

    Like my grandma. If sideloading were on a phone and just had to click okay a couple extra times, she might accidentally do it. If she had to plug it in to download initially, she’d think is this something that I need?

    • UrAlexios@alien.topB
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      You will probably need to enable developer mode (a few clicks and a restart) and then confirm something like 30 times in order to install an app. You won’t be able to do it by default, that would be just stupid.

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    1 year ago

    Why not let others also run secure App Store, w/o sideloading? Or pull out of Europe altogether if they worry so much about security?

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    I would have agreed with this stance 6+ years ago but there’s so much garbage, malware, adware, etc. on the App Store that it’s not as regulated as they’d like to have you believe.

    Even simple stuff like a pdf editor, phot editor or whatever. If it’s not a big name company, you’re taking a risk. Let’s not get into small and more niche apps.

    Plus, Google kinda pushed Apple into this position but if this goes through, first thing everyone is doing is install YouTube Vanced to ditch the ads.

    Overall I’m pretty whatever on it, it it happens, great. If it doesn’t, oh well.

    The ONLY thing that would get me to be more in favour is if this allows for ublock to make an appearance as a fully fledged iOS app with all the bells and whistles I see on PC.

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    1 year ago

    Will this open up the real Jailbreak again?

    If yes it would be nice to run Linux on an IOS device.

    Apple should make an IOS version to opt out side loading, not everyone want to be hacked.

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    1 year ago

    May be Apple wouldn’t have been forced to allow sideloading if they hadn’t resorted to monopolistic practices and extorted profits from developers.

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    1 year ago

    This article and the quotes are very carefully worded. The security they are referring too could actually be the security within the app distribution system, which in the current Apple ecosystem is the App store.

    Apple can not guarantee the security of the app distribution of a 3rd party system.

    However, the security on your device is provided by the operating system and the API an app can use. NOT the the Apple app store.

    One can still write and publish an app to the app store, which violates usage terms, exploits a vulnerability in the operating system or hardware, and compromises security. There is no guarantee to protect users against this.

    I still want the ability to install apps without involving Apple or the Apple app store. I have working iphones that are unusable because they are “too old” and don’t work with the app store anymore. There is nothing wrong with them and I have use cases for them, but Apple has rendered them functionally useless and then says I should buy a new iphone…

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      It’s like taking care of a child. If the child want get on the table, you’ll say no. The child still want it.

      This is apple move saying: “ok, get on the table, then don’t say I warned you”.

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        1 year ago

        An adult tells a child to stay off the table because the child does not have the skills to remain safe on its own.

        As an adult, I have actually stood on my table to change light bulbs. I know what the table can handle, how to fall, and the risks involved.

        Interestingly, iphones have a setting that allows parents to restrict access for their children.

        I do not want Apple dictating how I can use my property, since I am an adult and I know what I am doing. Perhaps adults should limit how children install apps. And administrators can likewise limit how users install apps.

        Apple sold me the phone, and it’s now my iphone. I want it to be serviceable and usable after Apple ends support. This requires it to function after they block it from accessing the app store. This requires sideloading.