• nikatnight@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    A few weeks ago I asked if the European teslas had better build quality than the American ones. Many told me yes but this data clearly indicates no.

    • Streetwind@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      Note that Model Y’s aren’t a good data point (yet) either. These inspections are only required after the first three years of owning a new car (and then every two years thereafter), and Grünheide hasn’t been running that long. Thus, while there are German-made Teslas on German roads, they aren’t showing up for the mandatory inspection just yet.

      Additionally, this inspection looks at technical roadworthiness, not at overall build quality.

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      10 months ago

      Build quality is about assembly, so its in regard to things like panel gaps etc.

      This seems to be more about parts sourcing and materials rather than how they were put together.

      Was the suspension chosen insufficient for the car? Are the brakes bad quality?

    • Enuntiatrix@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      Since the TÜV for new vehicles is after three years, all these Model 3 tested were Fremont built cars. I think we can expect this number to go down after Q2/24, because then the Shanghai built M3 will arrive for the check.

    • svaerde@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      From what I understand from the model Y community it’s Shanghai>Berlin>Austin>Freemont in terms of build quality.

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      10 months ago

      The primary issue it the use of road salt combined with little usage of brakes due to regenerative breaking. Norway don’t have this problem as they prefer to use gravel. But geographies where road salt is a common occurrence during winter? Brakes should be cleaned on a yearly basis + owner need pay additional attention to actually use the brakes from time to time to clear out surface rust.

      If you don’t? Discs will be pitted in no time which is an automatic failure at the German inspection.

      • Few_Ad6516@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        Trust me, Norway uses a ton of salt on anything other than driveways each year. If you put gravel on a main road you would shot gun pedestrians or the cars behind.

        • Ni987@alien.topB
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          10 months ago

          Very little compared to Denmark - and for good reason. Salt won’t do you any good when the temperature drops below -10 C. Happens rarely in Denmark, but it’s a common occurrence in Norway. Which is why different countries take a different approach to keeping roads clean. Same with spiked tires. They practically don’t exist in Denmark. Quite common in Sweden and Norway outside the major cities.

    • English_in_Helsinki@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      Models that are 3yrs old now have been built in Fremont.

      Next year the first batch of Model 3s with heat pumps and black trim from Shanghai will start getting their inspections.