Most people just see the study results and react. They have no idea how misleading can be this studies.
If 50 kia owners report issues with their engine and 20 report issues with their infotainment but Toyota have 0 engine issues reported and 300 infotainment issues, Kia will rank better than Toyota.
It’s easy to brush off infotainment system issues by saying “it’s probably a bunch of old people who can’t sync their phones” when in reality modern infotainment systems monitor many more systems then they did a few years back. Locks, HVAC, navigations systems can all be operated by infotainment. Having a broken infotainment could mean you’re gonna freeze in the winter because you can’t control the temp in the cabin.
Whether manufacturers should be adding additional steps to turning on your air is another discussion. As infotainment systems become more mainstream we need to truly understand their jobs and capabilities before we knock them for making reliable car manufacturers look unreliable.
Which is such a dumb way to quantify reliability issues. Like, Android auto is my biggest frustration with my Toyota, but aside from dealing with that occasionally, it does everything important that I need a car to do.
That’s what I noticed when checking car complaints website recently. Toyota took a hard hit during the entune debacle haha. I had it and while it wasn’t as bad as everyone acted it was definitely not good. My car is right at the 6 year mark now and was the first to have entune 3.0 and so seeing as this is based on 4-5 year issues, that is definitely a real thing.
I have never had any “actual” issues with my Toyotas. (11 in immediate family)
I’ve only driven Toyotas my entire life (my dad was a manager at Toyota HQ for thirty five years). So many goddamn Toyotas. And I can’t remember any of them having issues.
Not one, going back to the early 90s. Car problems are not something I ever worry about because I’ve never had to worry about. Just bought a ‘21 highlander, hope that keeps it going.
Our ‘03 Corolla has been rock solid. I think I’ve spent $1,500 on an assortment of small fixes and part replacements in the twenty years it’s been in the family.
It’s all one system. If your screen goes blank it could affect your ability to drive safely. It could also cause problems somewhere else on the car. Also, due to disruptions in the industry of the last few years, it could skew results for this “study”
Most people just see the study results and react. They have no idea how misleading can be this studies.
If 50 kia owners report issues with their engine and 20 report issues with their infotainment but Toyota have 0 engine issues reported and 300 infotainment issues, Kia will rank better than Toyota.
This comment needs to be higher
This goes the other way too.
It’s easy to brush off infotainment system issues by saying “it’s probably a bunch of old people who can’t sync their phones” when in reality modern infotainment systems monitor many more systems then they did a few years back. Locks, HVAC, navigations systems can all be operated by infotainment. Having a broken infotainment could mean you’re gonna freeze in the winter because you can’t control the temp in the cabin.
Whether manufacturers should be adding additional steps to turning on your air is another discussion. As infotainment systems become more mainstream we need to truly understand their jobs and capabilities before we knock them for making reliable car manufacturers look unreliable.
Which is such a dumb way to quantify reliability issues. Like, Android auto is my biggest frustration with my Toyota, but aside from dealing with that occasionally, it does everything important that I need a car to do.
This is why I’m glad my highlander still has physical climate controls.
That’s what I noticed when checking car complaints website recently. Toyota took a hard hit during the entune debacle haha. I had it and while it wasn’t as bad as everyone acted it was definitely not good. My car is right at the 6 year mark now and was the first to have entune 3.0 and so seeing as this is based on 4-5 year issues, that is definitely a real thing.
I have never had any “actual” issues with my Toyotas. (11 in immediate family)
I’ve only driven Toyotas my entire life (my dad was a manager at Toyota HQ for thirty five years). So many goddamn Toyotas. And I can’t remember any of them having issues.
Not one, going back to the early 90s. Car problems are not something I ever worry about because I’ve never had to worry about. Just bought a ‘21 highlander, hope that keeps it going.
Our ‘03 Corolla has been rock solid. I think I’ve spent $1,500 on an assortment of small fixes and part replacements in the twenty years it’s been in the family.
It’s all one system. If your screen goes blank it could affect your ability to drive safely. It could also cause problems somewhere else on the car. Also, due to disruptions in the industry of the last few years, it could skew results for this “study”