I’m not European nor am I that young, but I share the same sentiment. Commuting by car isn’t good in a lot of aspects and kids are too expensive. Also having kids in this climate seems extremely stressful. Not only do you have to worry about extremely invasive tech, but you also have to worry about the changing climate and the (what seems like) global cost of living crisis
- 1990: “wow, the ozone layer is getting destroyed. Who knows if we might have a planet. Might be better to not have kids”
- 1970: “wow, life is more expensive than ever and the world might end in a nuclear war. Might be better to not have kids”
- 1950: “wow, we just got out of the war and will need to rebuild the whole continent. Might be better to not have kids”
- 1800: “wow, I spend 15 hours a day working in a factory and I can barely sustain myself. Might be better to not have kids”.
- 1400: “wow, I have back-breaking work in a farm and all of it goes to some king and I will never see. What is the point of this? Might be better to not have kids.”
Lol 1950 was a great time to have kids, ever heard of baby boomers? The war boosted the economy, lots of people owned houses and started families. Same after world war 1, there were the “roaring 20s” before the great depression hit.
1950 was a great time to have kids, ever heard of baby boomers?
It is always a great time to have kids.
.Ever heard of global carrying capacity?
Yes, and I’d rather go through demographic collapse instead of global resource shortages that lead to massive amounts of death and suffering.
So what you’re saying is this all could have been avoided if people had less children in the 1400s?
“This all”, good and bad, could/would happen anyway…
I am an USA resident. Two years ago got rid of my car. Walk to work. My wife and I agreed when we first got together 8 years ago no children. Even if I wanted a car or a kid I wouldn’t be able to afford it. If I ever was able and wanted I’d adopt. I know too many people who were in and how shitty the foster system is. My aunt was a Saint and did it and actually adopted some of her fosters but the horror stories I hear.
I’ve recently started an apprenticeship in Germany, and it’s quite interesting to see how many people are super into getting children sometime down the line. I’m like, dude, we can’t guarantee a proper future for ourselves - what future is there to be had for children lol
Every one in this thread should read this article, https://web.archive.org/web/20230603214937/https://bigthink.com/progress/pessimism-is-a-barrier-to-progress/
End doomerism! It helps no one
Small price to pay so that better people can fly on privater jets
We are already having fewer children. This may cause more issues as the average age of a population will skyrocket
Better to have those issues than massive resource shortages that cause migration and war.
I mean, those are coming regardless. We were fucked twenty years ago and it has only gotten worse.
Yes, they’ve already started, like in Syria, but we can and should mitigate and adapt instead of sticking our heads in the sand.
In fact the Europeans not having kids will increase migratiom quite a lot.
More people also means more hands to get more resources.
We’re already past sustainable limits globally for many key resources.
