Honda says making cheap electric vehicles is too hard, ends deal with GM::The platform was to use GM’s Ultium batteries.

  • LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I love everyone in this thread who is talking about how expensive EVs are while ignoring they can buy a cheap 15 year old ice car and save thousands 🤣🤣🤣

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      1 year ago

      Isn’t the whole point of an EV that they don’t have ICEs?

      If I’ve got my heart set on a steak for dinner tonight, the fact that sausages are much cheaper isn’t really relevant information.

      • rishado@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Isn’t the whole point of an EV that they don’t have ICEs?

        Honestly this is the first time on Lemmy I’ve felt like I was on reddit with such stupid argument logic.

      • rishado@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Then don’t complain that the steak is too expensive and eat your damn sausage.

      • LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        You can want what you want. Doesn’t mean it’s a smart or only choice. You are going to spend more money in most cases and you won’t make up the money for at least 6 or 7 years (at least in the states) unless you drive a ton.

        • DudeDudenson@lemmings.world
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          Will you tho? With the cost of a new battery and how they’re wear items?

          Its not like ICE cars with good engines that can go 300k km in the original engine if you take good care of it. Batteries just degrade no matter what and these days they’re charging almost the price of a new ICE car to replace them

          • Steve@communick.news
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            1 year ago

            The average cost of a new battery is $5K. Most have warranties of 100K miles or at least 8+ years. Most also still have 90%+ of their range at that point. Replacing a battery really shouldn’t be a major concern. JD Power

          • LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            I agree. Most people will not save money on EVs with their usage. But on the flip side most people don’t own a car that long even with an ice drivetrain. It’s very dependent on what car you buy, electric vs gas rate, and how often you drive.

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              1 year ago

              That’s because people choose to not own cars that long, not because they can’t. Batteries simply cannot today last as long as ICE.

    • KptnAutismus@lemmy.world
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      i drive a 1st gen Yaris that is literally older than me. not the best for climate change, but it was 1500€ and uses less than 6L/100km. super cheap to drive. if an electric car was available at that price, and had a possibility of driving 10-20 more years, i would’ve bought it on the spot.

        • XIIIesq@lemmy.world
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          True, but they did have to be new at some point. Presumably you might like to buy a used EV one day.

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          1 year ago

          But how would people cope with shitty lives without buying something new every couple of weeks?