Some people might scoff at the 2027/28 timeline, but I doubt this is vaporware. Toyota is the world’s biggest car maker, so their claims have some credibility.
Toyota’s breakthrough is with mass-producing these types of batteries, they still face challenges in real world use - “Problems include the extreme sensitivity of the batteries to moisture and oxygen, as well as the mechanical pressure needed to hold them together to prevent the formation of dendrites, the metal filaments that can cause short circuits.”
Also look at thier pathetic EV offerings at the moment: they’re obviously still in the “build compliance EVs until the hydrogen ones are ready” mindset: https://youtu.be/yOeDJ7s_LCc
They’d be better off if they just took an off the shelf battery pack and put it in the muria instead of a hydrogen fuel cell…
I don’t think it’s vaporware, but they keep pushing the timeline. Years ago there was advancements and we were going to see it in 2026. Now it’s 2027/28. In 26 it’ll be 29/30
They’ll get there eventually, the tech is real, it’s just super new tech at scale is hard.
I doubt they’re using pressure to prevent the dendrites. Honda figured out a while back to separate the parts in some sort of polyplastic mix of some sort in order to prevent the formation. I bet toyota is also going more that route.
Some people might scoff at the 2027/28 timeline, but I doubt this is vaporware. Toyota is the world’s biggest car maker, so their claims have some credibility.
Toyota’s breakthrough is with mass-producing these types of batteries, they still face challenges in real world use - “Problems include the extreme sensitivity of the batteries to moisture and oxygen, as well as the mechanical pressure needed to hold them together to prevent the formation of dendrites, the metal filaments that can cause short circuits.”
The size of the company making the claim has no correlation to the veracity of the claim.
BP, Exxon, Shell spent decades claiming global warming wasn’t real.
Philip Morris & British American Tobacco spent decades telling us smoking didnt cause cancer.
All of whom are or were as large as Toyota.
Look at their track record and judge their words against their actions.
Toyota has spent considerable sums over many years campaigning against Electric Vehicles.
https://electrek.co/2021/09/22/toyota-facing-boycotts-over-fight-slow-electric-vehicle-progress/
So should you believe a company that says it’s about to table the next huge EV breakthrough when it fouht tooth and nail to slow that transition ?
Your choice, but I won’t until I see something more substantial than press releases
Also look at thier pathetic EV offerings at the moment: they’re obviously still in the “build compliance EVs until the hydrogen ones are ready” mindset: https://youtu.be/yOeDJ7s_LCc
They’d be better off if they just took an off the shelf battery pack and put it in the muria instead of a hydrogen fuel cell…
I don’t think it’s vaporware, but they keep pushing the timeline. Years ago there was advancements and we were going to see it in 2026. Now it’s 2027/28. In 26 it’ll be 29/30
They’ll get there eventually, the tech is real, it’s just super new tech at scale is hard.
I don’t think time affects a companies ability to reinvent physics. At the end of the day you are limited by the laws of nature
I doubt they’re using pressure to prevent the dendrites. Honda figured out a while back to separate the parts in some sort of polyplastic mix of some sort in order to prevent the formation. I bet toyota is also going more that route.