I have a QNAP TS-253D (Celeron J4125, 4GB RAM) hosting all my files. I used to have Jellyfin running on it in a Docker container, but it performed really poorly (which is expected ig). It used to take forever to stream a 1080p movie, and seeking back and forth would freeze the whole thing.

Then I moved my Jellyfin setup to my desktop PC (i9-10850k, 16GB RAM, 2080 Super), the files are still on my NAS. It performs much better now, streaming is a breeze and it almost never freezes or anything.

Problem is, it eats up all my RAM. My RAM usage is 99% almost all the time someone uses Jellyfin and it significantly hampers my regular work on my desktop. I can upgrade my RAM to 32 or 64 GB, but would that solve the problem?

If not, what is the cheapest mini PC or home setup that I can do that’d free up my desktop but still give me similar or at least good enough performance?

Thank you for your advice.

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    11 months ago

    Fyi this sub here is about selfhosting software services, not about any hardware purchase or upgrade advice.

    Consider subs like /r/HomeServer /r/Homelab /r/BuildaPC for that.

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      11 months ago

      Then you goto homelab and homeserver and they tell you X and Y things and bitch and moan about power usage. Or they suggest things that logically don’t line up with what OP wants/needs. Or they will say lines like “for just a little more” about 10 times until a build is $1000 or more.

      Lets try to be helpful instead of just pushing people other places…hmm?

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    11 months ago

    Raspberry pi 4 (4gb) with only direct stream/direct play. Works perfectly as long as the media is compatible

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    11 months ago

    I run Plex in Unraid on a 6th Gen i7 with zero perf issues and also only using the iGPU. Multiple concurrent streams no problem.

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    11 months ago

    I use a stack of old, retired laptops, including one from 2010, that I installed Gentoo on and setup Xen as the Dom0 hypervisor. From there, Podman and Kubernetes, and then containerized plex. I’ve never had any problems.

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    Very odd: on my computer it never uses more than 1GB of RAM. As for the limitations of your first setup, that sounds like a bottleneck when it comes to transcoding, which can occur because of a lack of GPU or CPU power, depending on whether or not you had hardware acceleration enabled. I would expect it to run much better on your new setup, but the RAM thing is worth investigating. I was running Jellyfin on 12GB of RAM until recently, and never hit 100% usage.

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    How is your RAM being used? Look at CPU-X in the “System” tab. If the memory is mostly used for buffers and cache then it’s not a problem, you want it to be used like that.

    I ran my NAS for years off an i5 (Kaby Lake) with 4 GB of RAM and 32 GB of NVMe storage and it handled any of the usual media servers just fine. I’ve used them all, Plex, Emby and now Jellyfin.

    Have a look at this table, get the cheapest used Intel CPU you can find that fits your transcoding requirements, slap it on a board with enough SATA connectors and 4 GB of RAM and you should be good to go.

    Docker should not have a large impact, I have 15 containers running right now and they only use 2.5 GB of RAM in total (for reals, without buffers/cache).

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    11 months ago

    I run Plex and Jellyfin and about 20 other containers in 8GB. They perform really well even though Plex doesn’t support hardware transcoding. I only have an i5 7500.

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    Probably a used enterprise HP/Lenovo/Dell mini or sff pc (e.g. Hp Elitedesk or Lenovo thinkcentre). The 7th gen Intel CPU’s would be the sweet spot between price and streaming performance I think. They can be had for $50-80.

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    I use a beelink mini s w/ an N5095 Jasper Lake processor and 8GB RAM. Hardware acceleration supported for the vast majority of my media, and I can do 2-3 simultaneous streams without issue (I haven’t tested higher since it’s usually just my wife and I streaming).

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    11 months ago

    Jellyfin on an Oracle Free tier instance, all your media encoded h.264 mp4 aac and stored on a cloud service like Mega. Total cost $100/ year - no electricity usage, 100% uptime, static IP.

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    Running Emby on my TS-251+ with 2gb of ram.

    Could be snappier when browsing my library but not a single issue streaming 1080p.

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    I run Plex on an N100 MiniPC, including hardware transcoding. I have the media in another system running TrueNAS.

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      Make sure you get a box that can be upgraded to at least 32GB, made that mistake got the beelink s12 pro, not enough with 16GB.

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        16 runs fine for me. I transcode to an SSD and run home assistant and airsonic and emulatorjs and immich and frigate and monitoring software like glances and uptimekuma and and and.

        Ram is at 70%, could use more, 8 isn’t enough but 16 will get you going

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          Oh, I don’t want the SSD to die. Transcoding to ram and caching Rclone with buffer to ram also. Have at least 10 users to share with my Plex.

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        if it’s just plex i’ve been running it on an old laptop with 16gb soldered ram and it runs everything without issues

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        Because of jellyfin? Mine is restricted to 3GB and runs happily on raspberry pi 4. I’ve even had it run on 2GB pi4 and it only struggled occasionally.

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      Transcoding what? UHD? Atmos? Or something else.

      I’m looking for a cheap solution since 1 tv in my household needs those files transcoded and my NAS can’t 😞

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        4k x265 down to 1080p (x264). Basically any Intel CPU that supports quicksync can do several simultaneous hardware transcodes.

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      11 months ago

      How do you connect the 2 machines together? This is something I’ve been interested in doing so I can technically keep expanding by adding more “carriers”.

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    Running Jellyfin on my old Pentium E5200 (dual core), 4 GiB memory. I use FreeBSD with ZFS, but I use AppJail to manage my FreeBSD containers (>15). It works very well. There is no performance difference between containers and host (at least on FreeBSD): Jellyfin consumes up to 400-500 MiB of memory with a single client, a bit more when some other client wants to play a movie, but in general I use movian on my PS3 or the Jellyfin app on my android device. When I rewind or fast forward the movie it only hangs 1 or 2 seconds depending on network traffic (in general the rate is low) but I think the Jellyfin app or Movian prefetch chunks of the movie and caches it to improve performance a bit. I think the other thing that helps me not to consume a lot of my resources is that my movies are usually of decent quality, but not the best, as they are either classics or too recent to be of decent quality.

    I don’t test the following because I don’t need to, but maybe it can be useful to you: