Hi all,

question to you: How many of your selfhosted Apps are improving your life? Which apps are you really using on a daily/weekly basis?

Many of my running containers are just for … running containers.

Portainer, Nginx Proxy Manager, Authentik, Uptime-Kuma, Wireguard … they are not improving my life, they are only improving Selfhosting. But we are not doing selfhosting just for the sake of it? Do we? …

Many of my running containers … are getting replaced by Open Source client software eventually

  • I’ve installed Trilium Notes - but I’m using Obsidian (more plugins, mobile apps, easy backup)
  • I’ve installed Vikunja - but I’m using Obisdian (connecting tasks with notes is more powerful)
  • I’ve installed Snapdrop - but I’m using LocalSend (more reliable)
  • I’ve installed Bitwarden - but I’m using KeePass (easy backups, better for SSH credentials)
  • I’ve installed AdGuard - but I’m using uBlock (more easy to disable for Shopping etc.)

So the few Selfhosted Apps, that improve my life

File Management

  • Paperless NGX - all my documents are scanned and archived here
  • Nextcloud - all my files accessible via WebUI (& replaced Immich/Photoprism with Photos plugin)
  • Syncthing - all my files synchroniced between devices and Nextcloud
  • Kopia - Backup of all my files encrypted into the cloud

And that’s a little bit sad, right? The only “Job to be done” self-hosting is a solution for me is … file management. Nothing else.

What are your experiences? How makes self-hosting your life better?

( I’m not using selfhosting for musc / movies / series nowadays, as streaming is more convenient for me and I’m doing selfhosting mainly because of privacy and not piracy reasons - so that usecase is not included in my list ;)My only SmartHome usecase is Philips Hue - and I’m controlling it with Android Tasker )

  • louislamlam@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Uptime Kuma maintainer here. The reason why I made this because I have some services like databases and websites cannot be down for a long time. I need someone send a notification to me if they are down.

    If you think it is not improving your life, it is probably because you don’t have such similar scenario and you probably don’t need this indeed.

    My point is that it may be not improving your life, but it improves my life at least, or others’. That’s just a choice.

  • edthesmokebeard@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    I don’t run any containers.

    I own my own data.

    I back up my own computers.

    My email is mine.

    You don’t need to overcomplicate it, it’s not a competition, and you don’t have to do what everyone else does.

  • dollhousemassacre@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    It’s all shits and giggles for me. Whatever service I fancy gets spun up, poked at and then left running until I need to free up resources for the next thing. It’s a wonderful mess.

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    11 months ago

    Mainly for privacy reason:

    • TeamSpeak
    • Seafile

    And something I find really useful: ChangeDetection, to monitor changes on webpages, like prices, stocks, news…

  • j0hnp0s@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    I’d say I am 95% homelaber and 5% selfhoster. Most of my stuff is for experimentation and learning. And most of my services are vanilla ones, like samba. So in essence I am self-hosting not much more than a few linux environments.

    The things that are indispensable to me are samba, my docker development stack, uptime kuma, and a simple wordpress installation that I use for notes and documentation. Oh and lately Stirling-PDF. That thing is just awesome.

    I have tried various tools, but I keep coming back to vanilla samba for most stuff. Like paperless-ngx. For my needs, it’s just a fancy way to tag documents. I don’t need full text search or OCR, and I can find most of my files quickly using a simple directory hierarchy. I do not really need the extra overhead of maintaining paperless-ngx. The same for things like Immich, plex or Owncloud. Samba and file explorer preview works perfectly for me.

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    11 months ago

    Paperless has improved my life by at least 12%. There’s a “before paperless” era in my life when there was a 20-40% chance I would be able to find a sheet of printed paper that the bureaucracy of my country thought was more important than Life itself.

    Now, it’s a solid 100%.

    Nextcloud has improved my life by 3% I’d say. It basically does the same as Google. But I fell 3% better overall to not be so incredibly dependent on Google. If google imploded today, I’d still feel it because of Google Play Services on Android. But that’s pretty much the only thing.

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    11 months ago

    Everything I self host I use each and every day (every other day, if I’m busy). I don’t keep stuff hanging around just because.

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    11 months ago

    Rely on a lot of my selfhosted stuff like my media stack, immich, syncthing (phone backups), home assistant, vaultwarden. Saves me a bunch of money from subscriptions

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    11 months ago

    Little bit of both I suppose. I find it very enjoyable to have a server at home to tinker with, I’m also enjoying providing media to my friends and family (and myself). I don’t use many self-hosted apps outside of media though, really only nocodb, immich and memos

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    11 months ago

    For me the biggest is probably Jellyfin. Before, I needed to use external drives plugged into my TV, then browse them using the TVs file browser. I didn’t see which movies I already watched, or at which episode I stopped. When I wanted to watch something on my computer, I had to get the drive and plug it in there. The same for when I wanted something new. Now, I have Jellyfin running on my server, all the clients have access to it and I can watch my stuff whenever and wherever I like. It’s also easier to share something.

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    11 months ago

    Well, I’m running my own CA/PKI just for the sake of it. Still very useful and more private and convenient for my homelab+.

    As for apps themselves, some of them are really useful to me:

    • bookmarks (own software)
    • Samba/WebDAV
    • knowledgebase (WordPress)
    • IoT stuff (own software)

    The others are useful, but I still haven’t unleashed their true potential:

    • NextCloud+Collabora
    • (photos solution, deciding on it now)
    • Gitea

    The third group helps me to run my homelab:

    • OIDplus
    • speedtest
    • monitoring
    • NTP
    • sandboxes/playgrounds
    • (internal mail server, still choosing)

    Tried these, but decided not to use, at least for now:

    • PiHole (using uBlock/MikroTik DNS+firewall for now)
    • Grist
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    11 months ago

    Some of the self hosting is a bit pointless, let’s be honest, but it all depends on a case by case basis. Having an automated Plex server is 100% an improvement. Got a new mini PC this week and was messing around with it and setting things up. One was adguard home and whilst it is very good, it does feel like adblockers these days do a very good job. Since I’m in the setting up phase and rebooting the server, internet on devices will go down and I there isn’t redundancy on DNS server.

    I think most on this sub are tinkerers at heart and like getting the most out of it and seeing how low power to utility we can squeeze out of our gear or just the pure number of containers etc. I don’t think it matters if you use everything on a daily basis but it’s there when you need it whilst other services do their job just by being active.

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    Both.

    I think its a fun hobby but I tend to only use apps that will serve a function for me. So, I dont have to many. On my setup I have piHole, a CUPS server, boinc, a QNAP NAS, openmedia vault that backups the NAS, Home assistant, and my most used Komga.

  • azukaar@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    I think you’ve stumble accross few of the huge issues with selfhosting

    - Developing apps is too hard, you have all the difficulties of SaaS development but with the added difficulty of having to support people installing your app in various setups

    - For the difficulty, the return on investment is low because the community is much smaller than what you can touch with a SaaS software

    This causes the breadth of available apps to be quite shallow, and additionally, another factor threaten further that diversity is that

    - people gets into self-hosting in one of two ways. Either to create illegal media-center (in which case they install Plex, Jellyfin, *arr, download client, etc…) or to manage their document in privacy (Nextcloud, etc…) seems like you are type 2. This causes most projects to focus around those hot topics, without exploring other things (this year alone at least 4 photos albums backup software started development…)

    But this state of affair is not sad or inflicting, it is natural for such as a young community to take time to find itself, especially in this difficult setting (I know selfhosting is not new, but I call it young because only recently did it start becoming so popular). And there are solutions to those problem too. On my end, like many other talented people, I am working on technologies to improve this situation, and hopefully one day we will see a large diversity of application growing, with much more accessible setup for people to run.

    What I forsee will be big in the future

    - Once we crack federation (I do not think current state of the technology is good enough) social app (Video sharing, file sharing, social media alternatives, news site etc…) will be big

    - Going back to news, once we improve the QOL of SH for public sites, news agglomeration is going to be big as well (for blogs and stuff)

    - Any mobile/SaaS app could have a SH counter part, that will automatically gain benefits from not being in the cloud. Im thinking things like various task management, productivity tools, and of course, home automation is gonna be the bigger winner for being in the home already, therefore workable offline. An example of this is already happening with cooking/recpies apps (Mealie, Tandorii, Grocy, etc…) which benefit from being at home, private, and accessible from the family, and home-assistant.

    - Finally, SH is going to supercharge the development of very niche software. It makes no sense to develop an entire SaaS offering for 100 users (ex. a software to manage your model train would be very niche) because you have to pay for a domain, servers, and so on… But a SH app could literally cost $0 to run (for the devs) while yelding minimal benefits (either from subs or donation).

    Give it 2-3 years for those stuff to develop better. In 3 years this sub will be almost twice as big at 500k, and you will have 2-3 times the amount of apps available that’s pretty much a garantee