• Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    arrow-down
    22
    ·
    1 year ago

    Would you give some responsibility to Hamas who uses Palestinians as human shields? Or is it all Israel’s fault.

    • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      17
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      1 year ago

      The evacuation order means Israel is ethnically cleansing over 1 million people. Are they all human shields?

      This narrative is basically just a hostage scenario. Hamas took a few dozen hostages, so Israel is taking all of Gaza hostage.

      And, notably, Israel is the only side actually killing the hostages.

      • Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        9
        ·
        1 year ago

        So you would have preferred that Israel had given no warning at all. Just attacked. Interesting. BTW, by human shields I was talking about the Palestinians.

        • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          10
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          They’ve also bombed the declared evacuation routes. It’s genocidal, and I would prefer Israel not commit genocide.

          BTW, Israel is killing both the Palestinian hostages it has captive in Gaza and killing the Israeli hostages that were taken by Hamas.

          I swear, Israel could march Palestinians into gas chambers and you’d blame Hamas for making them do it.

          • Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            6
            ·
            1 year ago

            Come now. There has been no determination who bombed evacuation routes.

            Hamas takes off their uniforms and houses in the same spaces as regular Palestinians. Israel bombs these buildings. Innocent Palestinians die. Popular opinion turns on Israel. They stop, it’s happened many times.

            You can be as bellicose as you want. Doesn’t impress.

            • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              5
              arrow-down
              5
              ·
              1 year ago

              Come now. There has been no determination who bombed evacuation routes.

              Hamas doesn’t murder Palestinians. Only Israel does that.

              Hamas takes off their uniforms and houses in the same spaces as regular Palestinians.

              Uh huh, and every single bombing target was one where a confirmed fighter was sighted? Fuck off, they’re flattening everything everywhere and now have ordered a million people to evacuate to their deaths while they bulldoze their homes. Ethnic cleansing.

              • Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                4
                ·
                1 year ago

                Hamas does murder Palestinians. Happens all the time. What do you think human shields are for?

                No, can’t say that every target is right, Israelis use intel to establish targets, and things go wrong. But, it doesn’t make much sense to drop a bomb without a good idea there’s a reason.

                Two things while your carrying all this water. Figure out who in the end you’re carrying it for and realize that the bad part hasn’t begun yet. Take a walk in everybody’s shoes.

                • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  7
                  arrow-down
                  5
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  1 year ago

                  Hamas does murder Palestinians. Happens all the time. What do you think human shields are for?

                  Those are people murdered by Israel. This is abuser mentality. “Look what you made me do!”

                  But, it doesn’t make much sense to drop a bomb without a good idea there’s a reason.

                  The reason before was to terrorize/subdue the population into submission, and now the reason is to force them to flee or die or both.

                  Two things while your carrying all this water. Figure out who in the end you’re carrying it for and realize that the bad part hasn’t begun yet. Take a walk in everybody’s shoes.

                  Take a walk in a Palestinian’s shoes who lives under terror from the sky and falls asleep to the buzzing of survelience drones every night. Who barely has enough to eat or enough to wear. Who has to spend hours every day going through security checkpoints. Who has no hope of anything ever getting better. Who has a life expectancy of 40. Who gets their knees blown out by a sniper for marching.

                  This is what Israel does. And yes, the bad part is only just beginning. When the ground invasion starts the sea will run red with blood, because this is genocide. The European settlers are finally killing off the native population to steal their land. Truly the 51st state.

                  And then Hezbollah will get involved. And then the US. And then Iran. And then Russia. And then NATO. And then it’s WW3. Yay

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      16
      arrow-down
      10
      ·
      1 year ago

      Israel is the occupying force committing genocide, the fact that you feel the need to try to do bothsideism here really says a lot about you as a person.

    • atetulo@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      How exactly is Hamas using human shields in airstrikes?

      Are they telling people to stand still while the bombs drop?