I got this from Socialist Roaders
To claim Le Duan lead Vietnam astray from socialism is ridiculous. His economic reforms were, in all senses, quite mild. Doi Moi wasn’t truely instituted till after he was dead and it’s still ridiculous to call Doi Moi a rejection of socialism.
Deng’s were not even drastic as Gorbachev’s, remember that.
Oh I know. But I would imagine that’s what they are are referring to when they said that
why did doi moi have the same translation as perestrojka?
Having the same translation doesn’t mean anything
Pol Pot attacked Vietnam in 1978 and Vietnam overthrew him as a response. He had already been killing ethnic Vietnamese in Cambodia since 1977.
This belongs in Shit Ultras Say 💀
That guy is our token Jucheist. He’s wacky, but fun to talk to.
Absolutely ridiculous, I would leave that server if they’re not being dunked on
I’m not in it anymore but I can say with 100% certainty, they aren’t. That server is filled with just absolute nut jobs
Unfortunately yeah, our mod team is very pro-Maoist at the moment, and are very welcoming to “all.” We’ve got nice people there, but it isn’t really a place to discuss socialism anymore.
Is it LeftyPol?
I might have gotten the group wrong. I know the user though and the group he was in with me was like this. I might be wrong about the group but the one I thought of was a Juche one. The user was like this for quite a while and defended by many other members whilst saying ridiculous things
They are being dunked on in RTD
However, one member of RTD accidentally posted patsoc content
Worst take I seen.
Give me a comparison between Deng, Le, and Gorby’s economic reforms.
I know basically nothing about what that person is saying and therefore have no right to speak about it
He’s saying that Pol Pot only accepted US aid in response to the war with Vietnam (which he fails to mention Cambodian aggression against Vietnam and Vietnamese minorities in Cambodia) and that Le Duan instituted something similar perestroika and that Vietnam was simply a capitalist imperialist country against DK. His claims are ridiculous and a bastardization and lies about the actual hisotry of the region in order to make Pol Pot look better because “oh he fought against imperialist Vietnam” which is absolutely untrue
In the world, socialism is facing critical challenges to its economic, scientific and technical development. It needs to re-perceive itself to change policies accordingly. The cause of perestroika and reform in the socialist countries, though bringing about initial achievements, has not yet created drastic changes. A number of fresh issues emerging during the process should be carefully considered.
-Nguyen Phu Trong
JereSuomi brought this up, thoughts?
How does that show that Vietnam has rejected socialism? I would also hun to explain that
“The cause of perestroika and reform in the socialist countries, though bringing about initial achievements,” kinda seems sus even to me
sounds really sus to me. If you can find the original source in Vietnamese, let me know. I really want to try learning more about my own country communist party.
