If you’re modeling relational data, it doesn’t seem like you can get around using a DB that uses SQL, which to me is the worst: most programmers aren’t DB experts and the SQL they output is quite often terrible.

Not to dunk on the lemmy devs, they do a good job, but they themselves know that their SQL is bad. Luckily there are community members who stepped up and are doing a great job at fixing the numerous performance issues and tuning the DB settings, but not everybody has that kind of support, nor time.

Also, the translation step from binary (program) -> text (SQL) -> binary (server), just feels quite wrong. For HTML and CSS, it’s fine, but for SQL, where injection is still in the top 10 security risks, is there something better?

Yes, there are ORMs, but some languages don’t have them (rust has diesel for example, which still requires you to write SQL) and it would be great to “just” have a DB with a binary protocol that makes it unnecessary to write an ORM.

Does such a thing exist? Is there something better than SQL out there?

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    Maybe a hot take, but if SQL injection is still an issue, you have no business developing anything. This is a solved issue and had been for years.

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      I have seen that this is still a problem, even in established enterprise companies.

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        How? I never worked in a big company, but do they just have absolute beginners without any guidance writing code that’s then never checked?

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      “If you don’t know what I know, you shouldn’t be here”

      “I don’t make mistakes that end up #3 on the vulnerability list, and if you do, I don’t want you around me”

      I find that a gate keeperish attitude.