Op thinks she’s evil because she wouldn’t have let Roe v Wade get overturned, bombed a girl’s school in Iran, established a gestapo to detain anyone looking Latino, and wipe Black history from all public parks and museums.
Instead it would have been the same old corporatism with increased social services like Nordic Countries.
Maybe there are worse things than overturning Roe v Wade in USA. Maybe billions of people negatively affected by the Evil Empire matter more than a handful affected by Roe v Wade? Or ICE gestapo shooting USians.
Perhaps OP knows about all the schools, weddings, funerals and innocent families bombed by Hotsauce Hillary. The death, destruction and misery she unleashed on millions in West Asia and North Africa.
Maybe there’s more to humanity than USA and OP is a realist, not an accelerationist like Fuentes and other white supremacists like him?!
You’re overlooking the part where he’s hollowing out and destroying the evil empire from within.
You’re missing the part where Mrs Cackles would’ve kept the global majority under the boot of white supremacists.
You might think West has the mandate from YHWH or Jeebus to dictate terms to the whole world. I don’t.
Obama and Hillary had the option to not play stupid games such as funding ISIS and arming them to topple Asad. They had the option to not turn Libya into hell on earth. Was their country under Gadaffi perfect? Of course not - but it was still better than what France and USA turned it into.
You might think West has the mandate from YHWH or Jeebus to dictate terms to the whole world. I don’t.
Pro tip for discussions, inaccurate jabs like this are how you get rightfully labeled as a bad faith actor and are a sign you are trying to mentally position your opponent as dismissable rather than actually argue against their points. Anyways:
You’re overlooking the part where he’s hollowing out and destroying the evil empire from within.
How have Trump’s actions led to the collapse of the “evil empire”? Or how will they? What mechanism will cause this collapse, what does “collapse” mean to you, and why do you expect the end result to be an improvement?
Idk why think the world stops spinning, humanity stops existing and systems stop working if West doesn’t get a final say on everything in everyone else’s life.
It’s not “my solution”. It’s happening regardless of how you and I feel about it.
Idk why think the world stops spinning, humanity stops existing and systems stop working if West doesn’t get a final say on everything in everyone else’s life.
Can you point to where in this thread I showed support for the fascist US government and their pattern of destructive foreign intervention?
Is the entire world just supposed to bend over and keep getting shafted by white supremacists because USA got nukes?
The collapse has started. There’s no turning back at this point, thankfully. It’s up to them to decide if they want to play nice with the rest of the world or keep living in their bubble.
Do you think you’ll have better luck with a young, charismatic colonel who has managed to earn the absolute loyalty of his men through sheer competence without ever publicly stating a political position?
Because if you do, I have a number of Latin American paradises to sell you. (Those colonels go by el presidente now)
Who do you think kept overthrowing elected governments to install dictators in so many countries around the world?
Especially in Latin America?
Who do you think is responsible for making sure Haiti or Cuba can’t succeed?
Do you think USians ever tired of carrying all that White Man’s Burden? It must be exhausting having to teach billions of people how to be “civilized”, no? Poor USians… my heart goes out to em!
You don’t care about the millions that will die for the remote possibility that things could get better.
“The world will fall apart if whites don’t have the last call and control over everything across the globe!”… sure thing, bud. Sure.
You don’t care about billions who deserve the right to decide their own future, free from your paternalistic nonsense. That’s your choice.
Fuentes and his brand of white supremacists are accelerationists. I’m not in their camp by any stretch of the imagination.
Fewer murders than Trump.
You’re entitled to your ‘alternative facts’. You’re welcome to ignore the misery in Libya or Syria or Iraq that Donald didn’t unleash. It doesn’t change a thing in real life.
I’m glad he’s destroying the evil empire from within. About time their hegemony ended.
Compared to billions of women across the globe, yes. A handful.
Like it or not, USians are not the main character nor the only ones that matter.
The women that Hillary’s policies turned into sex-slaves are suffering far more than anyone ever will due to roe v wade getting overturned. It sucks, but they can still travel elsewhere. Those slave women, turned into slaves because of Hillary and Barack, can’t.
Trump didn’t do anything about slavery either so that’s a wash. Meanwhile he did cut off aid knowing it would and did kill hundreds of thousands of Africans. Then he created an immigration policy that only allows white South Africans into America.
competence at maintaining the empire is worse than Donald
That’s a separate argument from your claim that Obama (who Hillary worked for) was more racist than Trump.
So we are left with evil accelerationism. You are happy that millions of Africans will die because of Trump on the remote chance that something gets better. The reason it is remote is because the EU increasing defense spending 10% doesn’t change that the US spends more than the entire rest of the world combined.
With your logic Bernie Sanders would have been a worse president than Trump or Hillary. It’s bizarre.
Why do you think Trump’s presidency will reduce the negative effects of the US on the rest of the world when so far (75% of the way through) it has only made things far worse for everyone else?
And they won’t bomb people because… the US will just magically implode? What mechanism caused by Trump do you propose will cause an end to international bombings?
Why do you insist that the rest of the world must remain subservient to USian white supremacists?
I don’t. You seem to be too stupid to underatand unless I spell it out like you’re a third grader, again, so: I do not support the status quo. I do not believe Trump’s actions will end said status quo. Any further lies will result in… (wait for it)… mild mocking! Hooray, very scary.
Op thinks she’s evil because she wouldn’t have let Roe v Wade get overturned, bombed a girl’s school in Iran, established a gestapo to detain anyone looking Latino, and wipe Black history from all public parks and museums.
Instead it would have been the same old corporatism with increased social services like Nordic Countries.
Accelerationists are the worst.
Perhaps op is capable of looking past their nose?
Maybe there are worse things than overturning Roe v Wade in USA. Maybe billions of people negatively affected by the Evil Empire matter more than a handful affected by Roe v Wade? Or ICE gestapo shooting USians.
Perhaps OP knows about all the schools, weddings, funerals and innocent families bombed by Hotsauce Hillary. The death, destruction and misery she unleashed on millions in West Asia and North Africa.
Maybe there’s more to humanity than USA and OP is a realist, not an accelerationist like Fuentes and other white supremacists like him?!
Trump bombed more than Obama. https://theconversation.com/under-the-trump-administration-us-airstrikes-are-killing-more-civilians-85154 https://www.wral.com/news/state/warren-trump-military-strike-countries-fact-check-april-10/
Trump has already killed over 750k children by cutting off all foreign medical and food aid to Africa.
Obama didn’t and Hillary wouldn’t have cut off aid to Africa.
You’re overlooking the part where he’s hollowing out and destroying the evil empire from within.
You’re missing the part where Mrs Cackles would’ve kept the global majority under the boot of white supremacists.
You might think West has the mandate from YHWH or Jeebus to dictate terms to the whole world. I don’t.
Obama and Hillary had the option to not play stupid games such as funding ISIS and arming them to topple Asad. They had the option to not turn Libya into hell on earth. Was their country under Gadaffi perfect? Of course not - but it was still better than what France and USA turned it into.
Pro tip for discussions, inaccurate jabs like this are how you get rightfully labeled as a bad faith actor and are a sign you are trying to mentally position your opponent as dismissable rather than actually argue against their points. Anyways:
How have Trump’s actions led to the collapse of the “evil empire”? Or how will they? What mechanism will cause this collapse, what does “collapse” mean to you, and why do you expect the end result to be an improvement?
Why do you firmly believe that white supremacists should continue to be the hegemons dictating terms to billions?
Pro tip for real life, majority of the world is tired of western chauvinists acting like they have the right to overrule everyone else.
I don’t, I just also don’t think your “solution” has any chance of working.
You’re entitled to your opinions.
Idk why think the world stops spinning, humanity stops existing and systems stop working if West doesn’t get a final say on everything in everyone else’s life.
It’s not “my solution”. It’s happening regardless of how you and I feel about it.
Can you point to where in this thread I showed support for the fascist US government and their pattern of destructive foreign intervention?
Just out of curiosity, what do you think happens when the US empire collapses into warlords? Because the nukes aren’t just gonna disappear.
Are they the only ones with those weapons?
Is the entire world just supposed to bend over and keep getting shafted by white supremacists because USA got nukes?
The collapse has started. There’s no turning back at this point, thankfully. It’s up to them to decide if they want to play nice with the rest of the world or keep living in their bubble.
Do you think you’ll have better luck with a young, charismatic colonel who has managed to earn the absolute loyalty of his men through sheer competence without ever publicly stating a political position?
Because if you do, I have a number of Latin American paradises to sell you. (Those colonels go by el presidente now)
Who do you think kept overthrowing elected governments to install dictators in so many countries around the world?
Especially in Latin America?
Who do you think is responsible for making sure Haiti or Cuba can’t succeed?
Do you think USians ever tired of carrying all that White Man’s Burden? It must be exhausting having to teach billions of people how to be “civilized”, no? Poor USians… my heart goes out to em!
So your solution is just to make things worse for everybody, worldwide, without any forethought?
Accelerationism is evil. You don’t care about the millions that will die for the remote possibility that things could get better.
Letting hundreds of thousands of African children die is worse.
Fewer murders than Trump.
“The world will fall apart if whites don’t have the last call and control over everything across the globe!”… sure thing, bud. Sure.
You don’t care about billions who deserve the right to decide their own future, free from your paternalistic nonsense. That’s your choice.
Fuentes and his brand of white supremacists are accelerationists. I’m not in their camp by any stretch of the imagination.
You’re entitled to your ‘alternative facts’. You’re welcome to ignore the misery in Libya or Syria or Iraq that Donald didn’t unleash. It doesn’t change a thing in real life.
I’m glad he’s destroying the evil empire from within. About time their hegemony ended.
I provided links to news sources. You provided nothing.
https://www.cfr.org/articles/not-so-peaceful-transition-power-trumps-drone-strikes-outpace-obama
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47480207
https://acleddata.com/media-citation/revealed-trump-has-launched-many-air-strikes-five-months-biden-did-four-years
https://www.statista.com/chart/amp/35728/comparison-of-us-foreign-military-strikes-under-biden-and-trump/
Hundreds of thousands of Africans already dead because of Trump yet you call Hillary the real racist.
https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/usaid-shutdown-has-led-to-hundreds-of-thousands-of-deaths/
You’re a fascist hiding in leftist clothing.
No, I just refuse to play by your rules.
I called both of them racist again and again without hesitation.
You’re the one who refuses to acknowledge her evil deeds and racism.
Maybe you should look inwards instead of trying to label me as something I’m not.
I have said Trump is worse and provided proof. You said Trump is better than Obama (who Hillary worked for) and provided nothing.
The evil empire is the whole western world. I’m which so many seem to think they won’t be affected if America falls.
I dont see any redeemable governments.
West isn’t the entire world.
Most of humanity does not reside in the west
A handful? As a woman, go fuck yourself.
Compared to billions of women across the globe, yes. A handful.
Like it or not, USians are not the main character nor the only ones that matter.
The women that Hillary’s policies turned into sex-slaves are suffering far more than anyone ever will due to roe v wade getting overturned. It sucks, but they can still travel elsewhere. Those slave women, turned into slaves because of Hillary and Barack, can’t.
Trump has killed hundreds of thousands of Africans and you want more Africans dead.
As if Hillary didn’t? All those people sold into slavery due to Hillary’s policies clearly don’t bother you one bit.
As if you genuinely care about their right to self determination.
Do you carry the White Man’s Burden, champ? Gonna save everyone’s soul and civilize them all?
Trump didn’t do anything about slavery either so that’s a wash. Meanwhile he did cut off aid knowing it would and did kill hundreds of thousands of Africans. Then he created an immigration policy that only allows white South Africans into America.
Under Obama, African immigration increased. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/01/20/u-s-on-track-to-reach-obama-administrations-goal-of-resettling-110000-refugees-this-year/
Trump stopped Black African immigration AND attacked existing Somilian immigrants.
But Hillary is the bigger racist?
I’ve explained multiple times how her competence at maintaining the empire is worse than Donald sabotaging it from the inside.
If you don’t agree, that’s fine. It’s happening regardless. USians voted for him, not I.
I’m celebrating the fact that their hegemony is ending. Not Donald himself.
That’s a separate argument from your claim that Obama (who Hillary worked for) was more racist than Trump.
So we are left with evil accelerationism. You are happy that millions of Africans will die because of Trump on the remote chance that something gets better. The reason it is remote is because the EU increasing defense spending 10% doesn’t change that the US spends more than the entire rest of the world combined.
With your logic Bernie Sanders would have been a worse president than Trump or Hillary. It’s bizarre.
Why do you think Trump’s presidency will reduce the negative effects of the US on the rest of the world when so far (75% of the way through) it has only made things far worse for everyone else?
He’s destroying the evil empire from within. That’s a good thing for the global majority.
What evidence do you have that the united states’s relationship to the rest of the world will become less problematic due to Trump’s actions?
When they can’t bomb everyone and overthrow whichever government they dislike at will, the world becomes a better place.
I can’t believe it’s such a difficult concept to grasp for western chauvinists.
Why do you insist that the rest of the world must remain subservient to USian white supremacists?
And they won’t bomb people because… the US will just magically implode? What mechanism caused by Trump do you propose will cause an end to international bombings?
I don’t. You seem to be too stupid to underatand unless I spell it out like you’re a third grader, again, so: I do not support the status quo. I do not believe Trump’s actions will end said status quo. Any further lies will result in… (wait for it)… mild mocking! Hooray, very scary.
Jesus you people are incapable of looking past your nose.
Wars cost money. A broke bitch USA can’t afford international bombings, overthrows and interventions. Which Is A Good Thing.
Donald is hollowing out the evil empire from within.
WhICh iS ä Gööḍ tHiNĝ.
You do seem pretty stupid.
Mourn the end of USian hegemony elsewhere. You’re boring me at this point.
A “no u” joke? You aren’t doing much to counter that third-grader dig, are you?