A high-hooded truck or SUV is far more dangerous to the public than a small car, and a small car is more dangerous than a motorcycle, so a speeding ticket/liscense points/jail time for an SUV should be >4x more severe than a motorcycle doing the same violation, and bicycles should basically only recieve token fines.
Traffic violations should be scaled by the size of your income
Some countries they are related to your wealth/income. I think that’s most fair
Por que no los dos?
Elon Musk requires a higher fine to stop him from endangering the public, but if he is driving a semi, theres far greater imperative to get him to stop than if he is riding a motorcycle.
You get ‘punishment’ for the act, not the means/method. Stabbed to death or shot dead is -for the law- the same wrong doing. Same goes for speeding. You broke the speed limit, the tool you used is irrelevant. So when an object -high-hooded truck- is a risk for the public, then make them illegal. Set limits to dimensions.
Don’t get me wrong, i’m not in favor of high-hooded trucks, they ARE a bigger risk, they ARE ridiculous, they ARE waste of natural resources, they ARE 9/10 a compensation of some form and in towns they ARE unpractical sized, but violations any driver makes is just that violation. It has no relation to the vehicle itself.
Stabbed to death or shot dead is -for the law- the same wrong doing
Carrying a firearm while committing a felony often carries a 5-10 year minimum, and using it can be 20-life, seperate from the crime of murder.
The reason for this is that carrying guns while committing a felony is significantly more dangerous. Same with going 35 in a school zone in an SUV vs a bicycle.
SUV vs a bicycle
I think you are either just angry or jealous at SUV’s. In every reaction -to me and anyone else- you only keep using extremes to defend your point.
But how is t.ex. a builder gonna bring stuff to build whatever he needs to build? Hook up a trailer to his tricycle ?
Don’t speed while you’re driving large vehicles, because it’s more dangerous.
But also contractors put trailers on the back of their motorbikes here. If they need to haul more, there’s kei trucks, and then industrial trucks. F-150s aren’t so common with contractors as they’re expensive to buy and maintain for what they can actually do.
Don’t speed while you’re driving
largevehicles,because it’s more dangerous.FTFY
From the multi post and responses I get the feeling your fit is (mostly) with the F-150. Other than that, It seems we took our stands and I don’t think this discussion is going anywhere.
Suvs shouldn’t be allowed, plain and simple
Doesn’t fit my sense of justice as to why the mom of a large family driving a minivan is somehow more morally responsible for the harm they caused by ending up in an accident than a reckless motorcycle driver is. I think the fine should reflect the circumstances that led to the accident rather than what you ended up in the accident with. Texting and driving isn’t less bad just because you’re driving a Miata.
more morally responsible for the harm they caused
The argument is that the degree of harm is much greater in the suburban childkiller.
Texting and driving isn’t less bad just because you’re driving a Miata.
Would you rather be hit by a lifted F-250 texting and driving or a Vespa texting and driving?
Vespa but that’s irrelevant. The point of the punishment is to not have people text and drive - not to punish them for having a larger vehicle. The Vespa driver is not less morally culpable for ending up in the accident in the first place - just luckier that the consequences were less severe.
Would you make the same argument for gun violence? If a person commits armed robbery then should someone who used a .22 get a lesser sentence than someone who used a .45 ACP and if not, why? Larger caliber is more dangerous exactly the same way a larger vehicle is.
The reason texting and driving has a less severe punishment than DUI is because it represents a greater risk to the public and thus there is greater incentive to stop it.
Would you make the same argument for gun violence?
If there was meaningful data that one was more deadly, but I seriously doubt a 22 is meaningfully less lethal when you’re within arms reach of the victim.
I didn’t say anything about DUI. I don’t feel like you’re engaging in good faith here but rather just avoiding addressing the obvious holes in your reasoning. This all reads more like anti-SUV post than a genuine attempt at finding the truth.
I also wish traffic violations would actually be enforced and then maybe more people would remember that they’re operating a massive chunk of deadly metal.
You’re saying it should be tied to recklessness, which the law already does.
If a bicyclist runs a stop sign, they are liable for the consequences same as if they were in a car.
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I would have thought that this opinion would only be unpopular with those who have a small dick and an emotional support vehicle. It makes perfect sense in terms of potential harm the driver can do.
