Furthermore, he would already know whether or not you’d pass the test before you were even created. So why create you if he already knows you’ll fail those tests?
Didn’t make sense to you because it doesn’t make any sense in any way ever. An OS/OP being knows how you and your will would react to literally every case and does not need to run any tests. And, if they did, why, there’d still not be any need for suffering. If you are all powerful you design the universe so that all this evil “necessarily” following from free will would not follow from free will. Can’t do it? -> not omnipotent.
Curiously enough, this (predestination) is one of the core principles behind Calvinism, stemmed from the verse “before ye inhabited the womb, I knew ye” (or something within these lines as I’m writing from memory). I’m not sure what exactly Calvinists even try to achieve with their churches and all the “praise God” thing, given they themselves preach “one doesn’t get to the heavens from one’s own works” (I.e. no matter how loud they “prayed”, if “God” decided they’re going downstairs, they will get downstairs).
I’m of the opinion. God will Judge you as He will. Up/down? What is your will compared to His? Maybe you can tell a joke, and he’ll let you off with just another round in Samsara?
Furthermore, he would already know whether or not you’d pass the test before you were even created. So why create you if he already knows you’ll fail those tests?
Because we still have the free will to make those choices. Or some such nonsense. It didn’t make sense to me either :p
Didn’t make sense to you because it doesn’t make any sense in any way ever. An OS/OP being knows how you and your will would react to literally every case and does not need to run any tests. And, if they did, why, there’d still not be any need for suffering. If you are all powerful you design the universe so that all this evil “necessarily” following from free will would not follow from free will. Can’t do it? -> not omnipotent.
Yeah. You right. Now explain all that to my extremely Mormon dad lmao.
Oof. Well, there’s no real need to argue the specifics unless one is really bored.
Curiously enough, this (predestination) is one of the core principles behind Calvinism, stemmed from the verse “before ye inhabited the womb, I knew ye” (or something within these lines as I’m writing from memory). I’m not sure what exactly Calvinists even try to achieve with their churches and all the “praise God” thing, given they themselves preach “one doesn’t get to the heavens from one’s own works” (I.e. no matter how loud they “prayed”, if “God” decided they’re going downstairs, they will get downstairs).
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I’m of the opinion. God will Judge you as He will. Up/down? What is your will compared to His? Maybe you can tell a joke, and he’ll let you off with just another round in Samsara?