(It seems to be, at the same time, a rebuttal of the neoliberal cliché that opening markets is always good while protectionism is bad.)
Meanwhile EU farmers have been allowed to dump their excess produce in UA.
And i don’t understand why ‘we should feel generous to have given’/‘they should feel grateful to have received’ help in the form of loans(, to buy western military stuff with one of the highest surplus value), there’s probably a reason to feel generous for giving them more loans and interests to pay, but i don’t get it(, is that because they won’t pay us back ?), they’re at least doing us a reciprocal favor by supporting our economy, but the tale that we’re giving them money doesn’t feel honest, not that they had any other choice than growing their debt once they unfortunately chose to side with n.a.t.o. at the expense of Russia though.
Honestly, like, i have nothing against them but Russia told them that Crimea shouldn’t be a n.a.t.o. military base, to take this example, and what was their answer ? « We’re independent, just do your base elsewhere, and we’ll do what we want on our territory », as if Russia had no say in its own security, their proximity with n.a.t.o. is a danger and for fuck’s sake the great Rus’ was stronger when it was united, they’re lowering themselves and every ex-member by siding with non-russians.
Now, just like with Georgia, they’re saying that their mistake wasn’t to side with n.a.t.o., but not to have joined it before 2007, that’s delusional, you can’t expect not to have problems if you have bad relations with your neighbours, either from the west or the east, Lviv sucks a thousand times.The people who allow those loans know that Ukraine won’t win, they knew all along, they’re just gonna use the debt to seize the entire country. They basically are buying an entire nation for a fraction of its price
Oh yeah, for sure, but we(sterners) are winning as long as Ukraine joins our side(, and plays its role against Russia), whether it gains back the Donbass and Crimea or not doesn’t have as much of an impact on us as it has on them(, it’s kinda the contrary since it’s a useful topic to heighten their anti-russian stance and drive them away from the feeling of belonging to the russian world, permanently crippling it).
The only way for us to lose would be if Ukraine somehow chose to join Russia. I may be naive to believe that it’s still possible, it’d be in Russia&Ukraine’s interests i suppose.
Like you say though, Ukraine almost certainly won’t be paying everyone back for their aid. So it doesn’t even support the giving country’s economy, all it does is make the books seem balanced right now by including debt that will inevitably need to be written off. So the current government doesn’t look so bad, while the actual money problem belongs to a future government.
“Allies”
