All a distraction from the Epstein files

  • Doorbook@lemmy.world
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    While this could be based on bad faith we cannot deny how a cover up was happening, and how mishandling of the pandemic caused more death.

    It was very clear how this was being studied actively in a poorly protected lab, and highly possible that it could a soptage event or an accedident. Yet they continue to dismmiss these suggestions as being lies and conspiracy theory.

    I recall posting published academic papers from the lab around October before the cases start coming up discussing continuing research of the virus and getting banned on Reddit. That how crazy it was.

    People also need to question how senior homes were mismanaged that causes unnecessary deaths/murder due to neglect.

    Same with Nurses and medical staff who suffer due to lack of organization and oversight.

    Also for vaccine, in a capitalist society that values money over anything else, after a major event like that, there should be national committee in every country investigating CEO and major shareholder and any communication between any parties that made tons of money.

    Assuming Fauci is innocent just because Republicans are the one going after him is stupid. The two party system should be able to hold each other accountable. If he didn’t want to handle the investigation, he should have quit, taking the position comes with risks of being investigated for mishandling of situations and he should be ready for it.

    The main problem here, is that, while Republicans doing their job, even as misdirection or in bad faith, the Democrats are not holding Republicans to the same standards, best they do is continuing where the Republican left.

    So yes this is good to see and hope more details comes out.

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      Yet they continue to dismmiss these suggestions as being lies and conspiracy theory.

      Because at this point, as far as I can tell, this is still just baseless speculation. It could have been that, but it could have been aliens, we don’t have any actual evidence to base any of it on, hence it being easy to dismiss as a conspiracy theory.

      People also need to question how senior homes were mismanaged that causes unnecessary deaths/murder due to neglect.

      Same with Nurses and medical staff who suffer due to lack of organization and oversight.

      Yes, this is every damn day. Before COVID, during the height of the pandemic, and every day since. None of that is particularly relevant to COVID, Fauci, or vaccines. Profit seeking interests preying on the weak without sufficient repurcussions.

      Assuming Fauci is innocent just because Republicans are the one going after him is stupid.

      We presume innocence because not one bit of evidence has been presented. Like this accusation that we should have just all gotten infected because ‘everyone knew’ that was better than getting vaccinated. Which goes against mountains of evidence showing that people were way better off with the vaccinne, with the most ‘damming’ credible outcome being that maybe it was a waste of time for people under 20, but only evident with hindsight.

      The problem is simply that the pandemic was an embarrassment for Trump, and would have been even if he handled everything right (which he didn’t), but they need to scapegoat someone so they scapegoat Fauci for no apparent reason.

      • Doorbook@lemmy.world
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        Because at this point, as far as I can tell, this is still just baseless speculation. It could have been that, but it could have been aliens, we don’t have any actual evidence to base any of it on, hence it being easy to dismiss as a conspiracy theory.

        Depend on how you look at thing as I recall:

        • They were literally studying the different types of bat viruses
        • They publish an article of similar covid like viruses and the similarities with HIV around October/November
        • If I recall correctly the Lab was not categories to be allowed to work on such viruses

        I think these three points are not baseless. Now we add other points:

        • WHO were not allowed to do independent research, and I think UK and France criticized the report.
        • US Intelligence suggested a few worker got sick before December, although it was Trump administration but Biden never released the full report.
        • and I think in the note Fauci point out that 10 out of 12 don’t believe it is natural. Although is not clear who they are but I assume they virologist at the time.

        I think these are not baseless suggestions.

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    Rand Paul seems sensible on other issues. Why is he so stubborn on covid?

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      In my estimation, he has reasonable views about 25% of the time, but the other 75% is batshit crazy. There is no middle ground.

      Pretty standard for a Libertarian, in my experience.

      • bcgm3@lemmy.world
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        His dad seemed way more decent and sensible during his attempt at a presidential run. Rand has always been kind of a sandy little butthole.