• AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml
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      6 hours ago

      Afaik Chinese DDR4 ram production is already keeping prices in that segment sane. They are working to break the ASML monopoly and sanctions on extreme violet light lithography to make the most advances chips and then will ramp up production. They are churning out like 10 times more engineers than the US and EU. They are ramping up but not sure when they will be able to compete at the highest level. I read 2030 earliest.

      • partofthevoice@lemmy.zip
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        22 hours ago

        Wonder if a consumer can get around the tariff. If the price is too high, it becomes more economical to pay a bit extra for a roundabout way of getting it.

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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          22 hours ago

          Gray market imports into the US from China have already been big business, especially among counterfeiters and drop-shippers. Idk about getting a full-sized SUV over the border. But designer bags, electronics, and the like have been coming over for at least a decade.

          Idk how much retail buyers save, though. Much like with the drug trade and human trafficking, there’s inevitably an enormous mark-up for this kind of smuggling. And because it is functionally unregulated, you get a ton of refurbished, low-grade, and outright fraudulent sales. Smuggling tends to accrue money to the smugglers and the various officials you need to bribe to move the merchandise. You rarely see retail level discounts, unless the market is so glutted with knock-offs.

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            16 hours ago

            RAM has not come from China, and China isn’t exporting much of it yet. Unless Canada and the EU and Japan and everyone else is also handing out tariffs on Taiwan, Korea, etc like the US is, their point was the price of RAM doesn’t have anything to do with tariffs.

            The price of RAM is high globally because the AI companies have bought future-RAM with money the RAM producing companies gave them to build data centers that don’t exist yet.