• FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca
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    5 days ago

    I’ve been looking forward to his death too but the more I think about it, it’s a mistake to think his death will somehow change the direction things are going

    America is conveniently putting all the blame on Trump and ignoring that it took a lot of people to put Anerica in the position it’s in. If the problem were JUST Trump, he wouldn’t have come anywhere close to being elected. A sane country would have reacted to his behaviour by laughing him off and never giving him any votes or airtime. Trump is in power because an alarming number of Americans (not necessarily a majority, but a lot) agree with him

    I’ve always been annoyed by people wanting to go back in time and kill Hitler. If it wasn’t Hitler, it just would have been someone else. There’s this strange persistent myth that if we get rid of one evil man, it all goes away. Hitler didn’t singlehandedly kill 11 million people. 11 million people aren’t rounded up and killed because one man decided to do it, it required people to go along with it

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      5 days ago

      Yes.

      Trump is the symptom, not the disease.

      Its obvious the big big money players are driving his agenda.

      They are daring the poor people to fight for their existence.

      PS: re: Hitler. Go back in time. Take meth and cash. Find hitler. Get him on meth, buy enough art to get him notoriety, teach him punk music, let punk music advance egalitarian freedom and anarchy, so fascism has harder time gaining traction.

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      It’s more about hoping the cult breaks down and won’t be unified anymore. Maybe vance can’t jedi mind trick people the same way or something? Republican party fractures, rfk jr becomes totally irrelevant, etc.

      But yes long terms the problems are still there, the hope is for some kind of respite, force the fascist elements to retreat, and democracy fashions some tools to defend itself better moving forward.

      But yeah idk i really hope all the epstein stuff can come out, for example – more witnesses come forward, actual accountability and jail time for the perps involved – but it would not be a huge surprise if none of that ever happens

      In terms of hitler, if he had died in the war or something, maybe France would have gone full fascist genocide. France was really a leader of antisemitism much more so than Germany before hitler rose to power. But of course, those are the kinds of hypotheticals that can only have absurd answers.

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      I don’t think that’s true at all, “if not Hitler then someone else”, as if it was some kind of unavoidable deterministic fate.

      Personally I will just be ecstatic over never having to hear his dumb fucking voice again.

      The cabal of fascists infesting and rotting democracy like termites will have to be dealt with and if anything, at least our shared hatred of Trump has made us come together and organize and prepare to fumigate the whole fucking place.

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        Trump has a cult of personality that took years to build, and isn’t simply transferred to someone else. MAGA doesn’t survive if he’s gone. Will there still be fascists, racists, and so on? Yes, but they won’t be unified anymore, and they won’t be grouped together with the rest of the right anymore either. This will be good for the left in the short term because the right will be less powerful, but also bad for the left because it won’t be as easy to attack the right.

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          My fear, concern, and prediction is that they will recoalesce. They won’t go back to being normal, if they ever were. All that hatred and indoctrination isn’t gonna disappear, it will always be looking for a vent, and you just wait and see, someone will come along to take charge soon enough.

          I don’t even feel like I’m being cynical, you know.

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          4 days ago

          No doubt it will hurt them, but they will recoalesce into some new golem down the line, and I don’t think it’ll take long. They’re loud and energetic, all that energy still has to go somewhere- and remember the fundamentalist Christians. They sure as hell ain’t leaving anytime soon, and they’re already mobilized and old in the game. I think once the Diaper Balloon pops whoever grabs the throne will be pushed as the new idol and FOX et al will brainwash the crowd into supporting them.

          That’s my bet at least.