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      Same way that Телофон is Telephone, most new-ish words are cognates of the one that made the word. That being said I’m pretty sure England wasn’t the first one to ever do passports, I never thought about it tho.

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      It’s things like this that make learning foreign languages in the twenty-first century a lot more straightforward than it used to be. If you read ‘formal’, ‘popular’, ‘non’-fiction like international news in newspapers, it’s basically all the same with a different accent and some different sentence structures. It can be recognisable aurally, too, if the other person speaks slowly.

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          Hah. They do pose some unique challenges for native English speakers. Can’t say I’ve looked at Japanese but with Mandarin, there is (some) vocabulary that is slightly transparent, like 卡尔吗克思。 I remember really puzzling over that one in an article about an airport until I sounded it out. But you’re right, the advantage for English speakers is significantly greater for Indo-European and especially Romance/Germanic languages.

          (For anyone interested in the characters above)

          If I’m right, they mean Karl Marx. In pinyin, Kǎ’ěr mǎkèsī.

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            卡尔吗克思

            Chinese Wikipedia says you meant 卡尔·马克思

            But in any case, yes, foreign names have to be sounded out in some way no matter what language

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              I mean theoretically if a logographic orthography for western languages existed like it does for Japanese there would be no need for phonetic translation.