Never been able to be sold outside of the US, including Europe or Asia because it would never pass the safety test, says it all.
It also says something about the American safety tests and laws. Americans are so afraid of Chinese cars that pass all safety tests but this unsafe monstrosity roams the streets?
Not only does it fail to pass basic safety tests it’s also too heavy to drive on a normal licence in pretty much all the countries of the world. It weighs so much that it qualifies as a truck, not a pickup truck, a six wheeler. It’s so heavy it has to take alternate routes around old bridges.
Even if it was legal in Europe, it’d be such an inconvenience to drive that no one would want one.
America only cares about the people buying cars.
Those pedestrians can either buy Canyoneros of their own or go die with the poor.
I just came back from a country full of Chinese cars…I gotta say there were some sexy ass solid feeling automobiles… Saw some tiny ones too, but I feel like I saw more busted rebadged tiny Chevys.
Eh, they sold them in Canada too, I’ve seen many of these garbage containers wobbling around on the roads here.
Had to look up the Edsel to see what a shifter in the middle of the steering wheel would look like.
On the next car I design, the shifter will be located in the trunk. Just to keep things interesting.
The only thing nuttier might be door release handles under the floor mats.
So you own a Tesla, I see.
Nah, but the crash after which four people burned to death while talking to the 911 dispatcher because they couldn’t open the doors happened just outside my city.
I’ve been in cars with electronic doors and the emergency latch is always super obvious, brightly coloured, and in one case glowed in the dark. For some reason Tesla feel the need to hide it.
Style points…
GM has been killing people with electric door locks long before Tesla.
It’s a feature. Free cremation upon death. You’re welcome.
I wish we had more variation in car designs but I suppose it would make licencing difficult. I’d like it if we could drive with foot pedals, push down to accelerate and twist left and right to turn like how it works on an aircraft. Then you could drive hands-free.
How about sticking it somewhere between the engine and transmission? When operating it in the winter, your fingers would stay nice and warm.
Gives the trunk monkey something to do.
I mean … I don’t hate it…
Half of cars today have push-button shifters anyway, and the steering wheel is kind of a fun and novel place to put them.
It’s definitely more intriguing than my boring airbag steering wheel.
I’ve been driving for years and I’ve never used my airbag even once. What a waste of money.
But it’s a casino game…sometime in the future it will blow up in your face for no reason.
Dude, the Edsel didn’t even have seatbelts.
Didn’t need them because no one bought them.
More dangerous than the Pinto, too
The thing the Pinto was famous for, its fuel tank being in the rear and exploring, only killed 27 people according to the NHTSA. So pretty low bar.
If my fuel tank went exploring I’d be worried too
We used to have standards for our vehicles
This is actually really funny, because Ralph Nader literally started his activist career pointing out that they didn’t in 1965.
The book, critical of the automotive industry, argued that many American automobiles were generally unsafe to operate.
Auto manufacturers were eventually forced to add seatbelts and protection for roll-overs.
Nader’s book was cited as the reason to create what became the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
When the original bill was passed,
Speaker of the United States House of Representatives John William McCormack said the passage of the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act was brought about by the "crusading spirit of one individual who believed he could do something: Ralph Nader.”
GMs president Alfred Sloane refused to install safety glass and boasted to investors: “GM doesn’t make cars, it makes money”.
He also had to modify the corvair he claimed was unsafe to cause it to do unsafe things… Nader is a piece of shit.
Oh totally, Nader is the piece of shit here…
In response to Nader’s criticisms, GM attempted to sabotage Nader’s reputation. It “(1) conducted a series of interviews with acquaintances of the plaintiff, ‘questioning them about, and casting aspersions upon [his] political, social, racial and religious views; his integrity; his sexual proclivities and inclinations; and his personal habits’; (2) kept him under surveillance in public places for an unreasonable length of time; (3) caused him to be accosted by girls for the purpose of entrapping him into illicit relationships; (4) made threatening, harassing and obnoxious telephone calls to him; (5) tapped his telephone and eavesdropped, by means of mechanical and electronic equipment, on his private conversations with others; and (6) conducted a ‘continuing’ and harassing investigation of him.”
Nader, on the other hand, literally took the money he won for GM’s harassment and intimidation and put it into a consumer protection organization.
Then
He went on to lobby for consumer rights, helping drive the creation of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and the passage of the Clean Air Act, among others
You’re fucking delusional to pretend he was the bad guy in this situation.
Whoa, dude, personal attack much?
Two things can be true. The car manufacturers are massive pieces of shit as most corporations are, but also Nader is a piece of shit…
He picked a target and fudged the data until it said what he wanted. Just because he was doing it to promote something good doesn’t make it right.
Ford also voluntarily recalled 1.5 million of them and addressed the fuel tank issue that caused the problem.
“Fixing” the cybertruck would involve offering refunds scrapping them.
All that lithium sitting in storage lots, wasted. Tesla could save the CT with some sort of body kit conversion that tears it down to the frame and rebuilds it as a more traditional truck. It’ll still not be a great truck, but better than letting all those batteries rot.
The frame is unfortunately a piece of poorly designed garbage too, even ignoring the Whistling Diesel torture test. And you can’t make something that isn’t a cybertruck using it, because:
It’s not a traditional frame with a body built on top. It essentially is the cybertruck.
They could (but won’t) design a vehicle that isn’t ridiculous and offer cybertruck owners a rebate on trade in. Yank the batteries, motors, and anything else that can be reused and scrap the rest.
All cars out of Detroit were designed like that. They only went after Ford because Pinto sold well.
I know I shouldn’t judge people without getting to know them but every time I see a cyber truck, I immediately think that the owner must be a gigantic douche canoe.
by the time the cybertruck started delivering, all pretense of who its maker really was was gone. no longer could you think of him as “just the electric car guy who was in the MCU that time and likes posting memes.” It was ABUNDANTLY obvious that he was a fascist boot heel. i can see any tesla on the road but the cybertuck and the model Y and rationalize that someone bought it without knowing, or sold it at a steep loss to someone who just needed a car. but the two newest models in the lineup? those directly funded fascism
Fiero wins again!
It might sometimes be on fire, but unlike a cybertruck you can put it out!
At least the Cybertruck makes sure you don’t need to buy a new car, by locking its doors. /s
Man I LOVE the fiero… And I hate that I do.
I daily one, I know just what you are going though.
Man what a wonderful pile of pontiac shit it is.
You daily a fiero? Do you do the oil changes yourself? Which engine do you have? And did you or any previous owners change the gear ratios?
I love the fiero’s of people who know what they are doing with them. If I win the lottery I would get one and have it converted to electric.
I drive a 85 Gt, with the V6 but have 2 others as parts cars. No other owner has changed the ratios as I have standard transmissions in all 3 of them. I do most of my own work, oil on a fiero is no issue. Most recently I hit a deer and just finished changing parts and getting a new windshield in it (and added too many deer whistles).
I would like to convert one of the parts cars to electric, but the costs are kinda messed up.
Look up a Chevy spark EV, they were going for legit nothing a little while ago, might make a good donor car
Good idea, not many ever came here but should be cheaper then other options.
Like so much over the past decade or so, I really thought it was a joke when I first saw one.
Idiots with too much money generate this kind of bs IMO.
You will be shocked to know most of those trucks are bought on deep debt.
Maybe because it can’t survive a trip to the carwash
What’s that? OTA software update couldn’t fix that?!
Who could have possibly foreseen this?
Shhh!
What about datacenters in space??!! 😮😛!!!
They’ve moved on to mirrors in space now, after briefly experimenting with advertising on the moon which they gave up on when they realised no one would be able to see it.
Solar Roadways!!!
Also: !bulgroZ liah llA
Probably because the are so noticeable, but I see 2 or 3 of them on my way to/from work. Hard to tell them apart, but that is a lot in the 20 miles I go.
They tend to be concentrated in my experience. Big tech hubs have a higher concentration. I see a lot of them around Seattle for example.
Meta and Amazon employees on their way to build ICE databases and creeper glasses
Mmmhmmm. And Microsoft
I wish I didn’t have to see one almost every time I drive somewhere. They are such a standout eyesore that it feels like I see them constantly.
I think they are very impressive looking iconic cars in a vacuum, like DeLoreans. Everything else is really unfortunate about then, but imo the eyesore part largely comes from the -very justified- cultural baggage and pretty much that only.
DeLoreans are way cooler than these cars. The cybertruck is a Pontiac Aztek designed by a toddler. It’s ugly from virtually every angle
Without the cultural baggage, yeah, they are interesting looking from the side and front quarter angles. But the back side undeniably looks like a trash can or dumpster. I was behind one yesterday with a pink/green hueshift wrap. When I was in traffic behind it, it just looked like I had a green dumpster in front of me lol.
Nah they’re ugly af.
If you wrap them (like you should), then you can make them look cool though. Some of my favorites that I’ve seen are bright pink, yellow, and various wraps covered in decals.
Without wrapping them, they look like scrap metal on wheels.
Even a paint job makes them look passable, ironically enough, and I’m what should be the target demo for cyberpunk murder wagons.
I maintain part of the scam was always trying to push the cost of painting the things on the consumers. It’s not like it’s new information that steel rusts…
Lol cool as an art piece, but, not in function
I’m terrified of them they’re basically mobile knives. In an accident they could do so much damage, especially anything involving pedestrians. Musk has been caught faking safety details also.
Well now I get to laugh even harder at the suckers who bought them.
The $100,000 dunce hat.
Fun fact: the stainless steel body panels cannot effectively be repaired or refinished to insurance company standards, so if something should happen to even just cosmetically damage one of the main body panels, the entire vehicle is unrepairable and totalled.
This is one of several reasons why the things are extremely expensive and difficult to insure. And, of course, it tells you how to do your part in making them even more expensive and difficult to insure.
Half of the panels on a cybertruck are just stuck on with glue and can be peeled off by hand.
It doesn’t seem like something all that hard to fix, they are falling off on their own already. If only they invented some mechanical way to hold car parts together instead of glue…Hm. Maybe forming some kind of"flange" with holes in it on the edges of the body panel that you could use to secure it with a fastener of some sort … like clips and screws! Perhaps even plastic “push fasteners” that are easy to remove with a flat screwdriver!
Brb, going to patent this original idea that’s never been done before.
I’d be more worried about the aluminum frame. Aluminum under cyclical stress will fatigue and eventually catastrophically fail. It’s why airlines have to constantly test aluminum parts so they can retire or replace them before they fail. It’s only a matter of time before cyber trucks start breaking in half while on the highway. It’s almost like there’s a reason no car manufacturers have made unibody frames out of aluminum before…
Your engineering knowledge needs some work. Most vehicles today have aluminum sub frames and suspension links. Aluminum only fatigues if stresses are beyond the design threshold. Whick is exactly why planes fly millions of miles, and are really only retired because of fuel efficiency.
Most vehicles today have aluminum sub frames
A unibody frame is a bit different than a subframe. You can’t reinforce stress points with steel in a unibody frame like you can with a subframe . And no, most (63%) vehicles still use steel for subframes.
Aluminum only fatigues if stresses are beyond the design threshold.
What are you talking about? Cast aluminum lacks any distinct fatigue limit, so any cycle load causes microscopic damage at stress points.
planes fly millions of miles, and are really only retired because of fuel efficiency.
Again… Where are you pulling this from? Even aircraft grade Aluminum is about 50% more susceptible to metal fatigue than steel. All aircraft have to have routine inspections specifically for metal fatigue and part of regular maintenance is to replace what they can.
engineering knowledge needs some work
Right back at ya… I’m guessing you don’t work with metals in your job? Anyone working in practical engineering or metal fabrication knows aluminum has a big problem with cyclical loads.
On the second part, why don’t you just leave peoples vehicles alone? I mean I dont like Nissans either, but I’m not out laying subtle hints to damage people’s property because I don’t like them. That doesn’t make anyone sympathetic to a cause, it makes them more steadfast for whatever you are against. Absolute 1d thinking.
Not saying you should damage either, but are Nissans also impossibility dangerous to anybody else out in public? I am pretty sure if a Cybertruck drove into a pedestrian even in modest speed it would total both.
You can say the same about any full sized truck at this point, everything’s ginormous. Just drove my FIL’s 1500 series Chevrolet the other day, that things ridiculous in size. It probably won’t be any smaller, or maybe just a tiny bit (I’m unsure for exact dimensions).
See way too many of these ugly shit-boxes in Vancouver.
Was on my bike the other day and saw one. Gave the driver the middle finger as I passed.
I saw a swasticar in Stavanger the other day.
aw shucks
