• Miller@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    The tools are not subject to explicit racial bias the data it was trained on has racial bias because the population that generated shows that bias. As usual the problems with AI are not its own but those it inherited from us.

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      12 days ago

      Yes, there is no doubt about that. I think a more interesting question is how ai compares to human recruiters and Im quite certain it’s far less racist then them.

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        12 days ago

        Why would you expect that? If the ai was trained on “here is a set of applications and these are the ones we hired”, then we would expect it to have the same racial bias. Or even an amplified bias, if human recruiters were actively trying to suppress racial bias in their hiring practices (either due to their own ethical concerns, or due to potential legal concerns for the firm if they overhired from a particular race)

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          12 days ago

          It’s because there is a lot more literature on how racism is bad.

          If you have any conversation with any LLM, they are against racism. No one told them to be specifically, it’s just the training material.

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            12 days ago

            I think they actually are told specifically to not be racist, beyond just their training data. Like, you can pretty easily lead an LLM to tell you that it’s a reasonable idea to install your own swimming pool. But it will fight you if you try to get it to say something bad about a racial minority. This is almost certainly due to specific rules that the LLM companies put in place, similar to those they have to stop the LLM from telling people how to make acid or making porn.

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              12 days ago

              A statistical concept that is important here is the difference between expected and observed data sets. Many people say the right things about racism but anonymously act in ways contrary to those ideas, LLM may very well be sufficiently subtle to differentiate those two behaviours and mimic them.

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              11 days ago

              Yeah your right. They have the guardrails, especially the mainstream models. But even so I think they are more objective when it comes to that.

          • Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            12 days ago

            The problems don’t come from explicit racist language or something overt like that. It can be as simple as a trained model settling into correlations that we don’t expect, and reinforcing biases in that way.

            Like you give it positively scoring prior hires, who all happen to be in men’s sports leagues during college. The model picks that up and scores new resumes with men’s leagues participation higher.

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              11 days ago

              That’s true, but that’s the bias the article talks about. Anyway, they should really do a pvp on this.