• tomalley8342@lemmy.world
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    There was a stint of a year or two where cracks took a little longer

    I guess I must have entered some utopian parallel universe when I clicked into this thread because I see all these people commenting things like this but I look over to the other sites like crackwatch and cs-rin and literally see that there were 3 legitimate denuvo cracks TOTAL between the between empress’s 2023 crashout and voices38’s public 2026 entry. (Dragon’s Dogma 2 was a debug build leak). Or maybe the excitement of the hypervisor bypass got people hallucinating some revisionist history.

    These days the only thing protecting games from piracy isn’t Denuvo, it’s the lack of interest of scene groups in doing the cracking

    So when RE4 got cracked once in 2023 by empress, no other patches get cracked for the next 3 years, then denuvo gets removed in 2026, and RUNE cracks the latest version on that very same day, it wasn’t because of denuvo, it was because RUNE suddenly gained interest? as a total coincidence or what?

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      It’s like I said, the biggest opposition to game pirating isn’t the protection Denuvo actually provides but just the lack of interest in people doing the cracking.

      I can see where you’d argue that this means Denuvo is “working” but only in the sense that any old $2 lock you put on your front door is protecting your home from the 0 people attempting to break and enter.

      Also in the void EMPRESS left in the scene, there have been newcomers, but they’ve started off by cracking older games.

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        And those exact same people suddenly gain an interest as soon as denuvo is removed? Get real man.

        any old $2 lock you put on your front door is protecting your home from the 0 people attempting to break and enter.

        “well I wasn’t even trying anyways!” excuse lol

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          And those exact same people suddenly gain an interest as soon as denuvo is removed?

          No the lack of interest is probably there in both cases.

          “well I wasn’t even trying anyways!” excuse lol

          Generational levels of cope on display here. “My lock is so effective that NOBODY* can break it!”

          *No one has tried

          By that logic the locking mechanism on my old 1998 Ford Taurus I was driving in 2015 had a state of the art security system that protected it that would put modern solutions to shame because for some reason, it was never stolen.

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            So convenient that there is exactly enough interest to crack every non denuvo game in 1 day but every single denuvo game with millions in sales gets left alone for years 😂 because obviously cracking Laundry Store Simulator is more “interesting” than cracking the latest multi million AAA hit 😂

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              What on earth are you talking about? You’re all tied up in knots. I’m not talking about any non-Denuvo games.

              every single denuvo game with millions in sales gets left alone for years

              I mean if you ignore the ones that don’t, then sure. Most recently RE Requiem just came out and is a AAA hit with millions of sales, has Denuvo, and has already been cracked. That doesn’t sound like it was “left alone for years” to me.

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                And the near 3 year long blackout period between empress and voices? Everyone lost “interest” simultaneously for multiple years? They got bored or something? And even now voices38 is the only one “interested” in denuvo?Everyone else is just not “interested”?

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                  2 year*.

                  Everyone lost “interest” simultaneously for multiple years? They got bored or something?

                  Who is this “everyone” you speak of? You realize pirate scene groups are very niche groups of people right?

                  I mean yes, people who are not in pirate scene groups are largely so because they’re not interested in being so. I’m not interested, and I’m not in one. I’m not sure what it is that you’re implying is keeping people out of these groups besides a lack of interest. Do you think doing a thankless job like that is fun? I don’t think it would be.

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                    Who is this “everyone” you speak of? You realize pirate scene groups are very niche groups of people right?

                    There were no denuvo cracks in that period, and according to you it was only because they’re not interested in doing it. Then it must mean nobody was interested no? Otherwise there would have been a crack out in that time?

                    Do you think doing a thankless job like that is fun? I don’t think it would be.

                    Other games get cracked day 0 even though it’s equally thankless. That obviously isn’t the distinguishing factor.