• Pirate2377@lemmy.zip
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    8 days ago

    Did Biden win the senate? Did he appoint the judges for the supreme court? I agree that he mishandled the conflict in Israel, but I not sure what Biden could have done to stop the abolishment of Roe v Wade as an example. If anything, he did a good job bringing us back to some sense of stability after Trump’s 1st term ended in disaster. We should critize the Democrats for their mismanagement in that goal, but this consensus that Republicans and Democrats are exactly the same I’ve been seeing everywhere is ridiculous. It’s a false equivalence fallacy

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      7 days ago

      I agree that he mishandled the conflict in Israel, but I not sure what Biden could have done to stop the abolishment of Roe v Wade as an example.

      You’re just not thinking as creatively as a Republican. That’s the main problem with shit libs like Biden. They’re not willing to be creative and use the actual authority they do have. They demand more power while not responsibly using the power they do have. They just do nothing and bitch that they don’t have a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate. People floated all sorts of options for Biden to protect abortion rights after Roe fell, using just the power of the presidency, no action required by Congress. Because he’s a shit lib, he decided to do nothing instead.

      Among those things proposed were:

      • Offering abortion services on US military bases in states were abortion is illegal. Either by military doctors or by private groups hosted on military bases.

      • Put protection in place on federal data sharing with local and state police to restrict its use for enforcing anti-abortion laws.

      • Put in vending machines in post offices selling abortion pills OTC.

      • Restricting funding to states that restrict abortion.

      • Come up with many tactics like these. If SCOTUS rules against it, adjust the tactic slightly and try it again with something different. SCOTUS can only move so quickly, and it would take years for them to strike down any particular scheme.

      These are the kinds of things Republicans do when they control the White House. Democrats don’t show this level of creativity. Instead they just bitch about not having a 60 vote majority in the Senate.

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        7 days ago

        Yeah, I agree that the Biden Administration could have tried to do more to stop it. I use Roe v Wade as an example though since it’s commonly used for the argument that Democrats and Republicans are the same…even though Biden wasn’t the one who overturned it and was done by the supreme court that was appointed by Trump during his first term

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      Did Biden win the senate?

      It seems that now that Trump is president, what congress says doesn’t matter at all and the President can do whatever.

      Did he appoint the judges for the supreme court?

      He could’ve expanded it, like FDR threatened to do and forced the court to let him do some of the New Deal reforms they were previously opposed to. Biden never lifted a finger with regards to that. This also could’ve maintained Roe v Wade.

      I agree that he mishandled the conflict in Israel,

      1. it’s a genocide
      2. “mishandled” is a really egregious weasel word for “gave unconditional support to the government even as approval ratings slid down the drain”
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        7 days ago

        The problem is if Biden had done this everything he did would have been struck down why it works for Trump is because Republican Congress doesn’t stand up or have a spine when it’s a Republican leader

        You’re literally dragging Democrats through the mud for the fact that Republicans won’t hold each other accountable

        Now don’t get me wrong there’s a lot Democrats need to be held accountable for but I just want it to be things that they earned

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          Now don’t get me wrong there’s a lot Democrats need to be held accountable for but I just want it to be things that they earned

          They earn our vote when they aren’t shitheels for fascists.

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          The problem is if Biden had done this everything he did would have been struck down why it works for Trump is because Republican Congress doesn’t stand up or have a spine when it’s a Republican leader

          That’s why you keep trying. That’s what Republican presidents do. When they want to do something by executive order, they have their lawyers come up with a dozen different ways to accomplish the same goal using various provisions in different laws. They implement one. If SCOTUS strikes it down, they just move on to another method from the list. It takes years for the court to strike it down, and in the meantime they keep doing what they wanted to do.

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          I’m curious by your last statement if you have a problem with Democrat candidates should have to earn a vote from us.

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          The democrats didn’t have to play by trump’s rules, but they had to dismantle the foundations he had put in place during his term. I mean, they didn’t even strengthen rules to avoid another Jan 6th. Didn’t protect the freedom of the press. Didn’t strengthen campaign finance laws. Didn’t approach voting reform. Didn’t ban gerrymandering. Nothing.

          Democratic politicians (as opposed to Democrat Party politicians) seem to think you defeat the other side by winning elections, but it’s impossible to win all the elections. At some point you lose, and all you’ve got left is your systematic safeguards to keep your democracy. You must bolster the safeguards while you can, even if it might work against you in the short term.

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          So the Democratic Party is structurally incapable of pushing through the reforms and new programs that are necessary to stop fascism? Why should people keep being married to that party instead of supporting any other effort, and pay no rhetorical support nor lip service to a party that also facilitates fascism?