• wscholermann@aussie.zone
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    1 year ago

    I could respond to everything you said but you are not dscussing this in good faith. You are dismissive, rude and insulting. I will not engage with someone with an attitude.

    It’s the Yes side that wants something and wants to change. It’s up to the Yes side to argue for they want convincingly and respectfully and you won’t get it by being rude.

    You can keep responding if you like, but I would only hope you take my advice because it’s the best thing for the Yes side, or shoot yourself in the foot, it’s up to you.

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      I don’t care about changing your opinion dude. I have no fucking idea who you are or why you think you’re so important to me but you’re not not - sorry to break it to you. The emotional blackmail is not going to work; lose the main character syndrome.

      The only reason I replied is to debunk your lies and correct your misconceptions. People like you always attempt to overwhelm everyone by just spewing out as much garbage as possible - this is literally the conservative No campaign’s tactic for the referendum.

      If you actually want to defend your drivel for whatever reason, grow up and get a real argument. “You hurt my feelings” is not an argument; it is childish behaviour.

      • Ban DHMO 🇦🇺@aussie.zoneM
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        1 year ago

        Whether you believe they are an idiot or not for having their views is irrelevant. The sidebar says to keep discussion civil and respectful, I find having to remind everyone of this is like being a primary school teacher

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      I disagree with your political position, but I do agree with your stance on being disrespected.

      I still feel like you should reply, but take the high road, continue to be respectful and address the points of disagreement. I want to see where this conversation goes.

      • wscholermann@aussie.zone
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        1 year ago

        I’m not playing ball with somebody who calls me a liar, accuses me of playing the victim (which made no sense) and calls me an idiot.

        This is the problem with some on the Yes side, who feel the need to engage in personal attacks, often on people they don’t even know. And there’s no doubt some of that on the No side too.

        Ultimately I’ll have my say on referendum day, assuming I decide to take part. And what I don’t find persuasive is personal attacks from either side, and I imagine many others are the same.

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          "Your capacity to be offended, isn’t something that I or anyone else needs to respect. Your capacity to be offended isn’t something you should respect. In fact, it’s something you should be on your guard for, perhaps more than any other property of your mind.

          This feeling can mislead you. If you care about justice (and you absolutely should) you should care about facts and the ability to discuss them openly. Justice requires contact with reality.

          It simply isn’t the case, it cannot be the case, that the most pressing claims on our sense of justice need come from those who claim to be most offended by conversation itself."

          • Sam Harris