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‘Lol but everyone knows midterms and primaries arent important!’
(Proceeds to complain about quality of candidates during the presidential)
‘Lol but everyone knows midterms and primaries arent important!’
You sure beat the shit out of that strawman. If you’d had primaries in 2024, we might not be in this mess.
I’m not that sure that history will give a shit about US American Democrats or US American Republicans.
Those labels will be lost. “US American” concentration camps, disappearing citizens, ignoring court orders, death squads … there will be no “oh that was just the Republicans”; it will be “oh that was just the Americans”.
Partly… Look at the original Nazis. The nazi part is usually added to make the distinction with different periods - but for that period, the whole nation is referred to as nazi Germany.
@Salamence 100% accurate
I mean, the DNC supports genocide. Trump is worse, which is really a testament to how phenomally bad he is for just about everyone on the planet. I want progressive democrats on the ballot, but I’m not holding my breath. I’m still going to vote, and I’m going to vote for the least bad option.
Thats precisely what the DNC counts on when they ratfuck progressives. The only reason we got Biden to step down and Kamala to pick Walz was the DNC couldn’t delude themselves into thinking they could win. Once Kamala’s popularity spiked and they told themselves the left, black people, and/or women would do as they are told, they went back to business as usual.
We need to be screaming from now to 2028 that any candidate who does not support free healthcare, abolition of ICE, and zero weapons for Israel is unelectable.
We need to be screaming from now to 2028 that any candidate who does not support free healthcare, abolition of ICE, and zero weapons for Israel is unelectable.
The DNC does not care if their candidate is electable. They only care that their candidate is not a progressive.
The only reason Biden stepped down when he did was that the DNC wanted to avoid a primary they knew Kamala wouldn’t win. They waited until she was the only viable candidate. It wasn’t delusion, it was strategy. It was terrible strategy, but I also think that’s part of the strategy. We didn’t “get” Biden to step down. We failed to get rid of him soon enough for it to matter.
The problem is that there aren’t enough voters who support free healthcare, abolition of ICE, and zero weapons for Israel. We need leadership to make the argument for those policies, and those leaders are simply lacking. There are more every day, and I will fight with everything I have to support them, but they are going to keep losing for a while. Our fight is long, and we plant the trees that will shade our decendents when we are long buried. And in the meantime, there will be an election, and you will make a choice. Choose something you can live with, because it will have an impact on the world. If you choose not to participate, you are still equally responsible for the outcome.
there aren’t enough voters who support free healthcare, abolition of ICE, and zero weapons for Israel
Nah, that requires intentionally misleading polls. Ask someone on the street “Do you think healthcare should be free” or even “should every single american have healthcare” and you will get overwhelming agreement. To get people to disagree you have to do bullshit like “Do you want the government to take away your health insurance” or something. Same with abolition of ICE and weapons for Israel. The only people who want ICE coming to their neighborhood and dragging off their neighbors or Israel bombing brown people are never going to vote dem.
There are no voters who will vote for means-tested subsidies for insurance companies that you buy through 1 of 50 online marketplaces or through your employer, but won’t vote for free healthcare.
There is a shitton of voters who will vote for free healthcare, but will assume whatever compromised centrist solution the neolibs come up with will not help them.
“Do you think healthcare should be free?” is not the same question as “Do you care enough about free healthcare to vote for a candidate who supports it?” Voters are largely uninformed, unengaged, and only rarely do more than show up to vote if they bother to do that.
The number of people who will show up for free healthcare is greater than the number who will show up for complicated tax credits for PEL grant recipients who operate a business in an under-served neighborhood for 5 years and were born on a prime numbered date, and make between 20 and 40K/year and submit 12 pages of paperwork.
Hell when I was phone-banking for Biden in 2020, half the people I was contacted listed free healthcare and freeing the ICE camps as reasons they were going to vote.
They thought they were voting for progressive policy, the opposite of that happened. Further disengagement is expected result of not doing everything in your power to help your base.
Further disengagement is expected result of not doing everything in your power to help your base.
The DNC thinks its base is netanyahu and two cheneys. Well, one cheney now.
@themeatbridge yep
voting is not a marriage proposal, it’s a chess move towards a better future.
I still want everyone at the DNC leadership to choke and die, soonest.
it’s a chess move towards a better future.
The expected move from progressives is always “forfeit.”
chess moves implies control and voting for the lesser evil isn’t a strategic move; it’s just hoping that the piece you think you’re forced to move does the least amount of damage.
@eldavi you likely don’t understand chess. Or what “strategic” means.
Stop gaslighting anyone who doesn’t immediately accept your pro-genocide-and-nothing-else-ever bullshit.
voting for any non-progressive candidate perpetuates this system that’s controlled by baby raping/eating/killing oligarchic billionaires.
Not voting for any candidate because none of them are progressive enough perpetuates the same system. How are you helping by not voting for the lesser evil?
Explicitly describing genocide as “not progressive enough”
Politics is a spectrum, and theoretically there is a candidate even for you that would still support genocide and also be progressive enough to earn your vote.
Edit: Yes, downvote me, but tell me who you voted for in the most recent election at any level, and I’ll point to the genocide they supported.
Edit 2: Lot of people telling me progressive candidates are on every ballot, but nobody has yet to name a single candidate. One person mentioned a party that fielded three total candidates nationwide in all races in the 2024 election, one of whom was a Presidential candidate that could not mathematically win because she wasn’t on enough ballots. Most Americans were unable to find her name on their ballot, and the overwhelming majority of Americans did not have any PSL representation on their ballots at any level.
Politics is a spectrum, and theoretically there is a candidate even for you that would still support genocide and also be progressive enough to earn your vote.
Theoretically there’s a progressive who supports genocide hard enough to get your vote.
What the fuck are you talking about?
No, there isn’t. What a fucking horrific thing to say.
You’re telling me you’ve never voted for a candidate that supports the current Israeli genocide? Are you not an American?
At this point staying home helps Trump. It’s the fucking reason he’s there. Trump votes stayed consistent with 2020 but Dems votes dropped by millions. You saying Harris would be just as bad? This view is pushed by billionaires to help get fascists elected.
approximately 10 million and the dems still refuses to change their game, but it’ll be worse next time because of epstein and iran… in addition to gaza.
Yeah. That’ll show em!
it’s not about retribution, it’s about complicity w genocides; wars for profit; and baby raping/killing/eating.
people are slowly becoming disaffected and now there’s so many who won’t participate that aren’t enough 3rd party voters to make up the difference.
Dont tell me mate. Tell those stupid voters!
they’re not stupid, they’re disaffected and ignoring why they’re disaffected will lead to more people not voting.
And more trump. But somehow its not their problem.
You’re so devoted to genocide that you long ago learned that it’s a losing issue, but refuse to abandon it anyway.
Top Democratic officials who worked on the party’s still-secret autopsy of the 2024 election concluded that Kamala Harris lost significant support because of the Biden administration’s approach to the war in Gaza, Axios has https://web.archive.org/web/20260223002443/https://www.axios.com/2026/02/22/dnc-2024-autopsy-harris-gaza
Wow, maybe dont run pro-genocide candidates if you want your base to Vote for you? Or do you think the cult-like devotion of the republicans is a positive democrats should follow?
Then again what is the other Option? Not vote for either candidate like in 2024 and let Trump win?
I’m not a US citizen but I still act similar in my local elections - vote for the candidate that will do less evil when they’re in office, if there is no better option. And I gotta hand it to the DNC they’re really amazing at just cutting off their own legs. Because shooting themselves in the knee can’t describe this.
Then again what is the other Option? Not vote for either candidate like in 2024 and let Trump win?
You’re the guy in the meme. So devoted to genocide that you can’t imagine a better option.
Not devoted to genocide - but rather when wanting better candidate (a real socialist candidate that does not support the war machine) but instead getting a sock puppet I’d rather try to have the sock puppet instead of letting worse people win.
You have two years to get a candidate that doesn’t support the genocide you totally aren’t devoted to.
Try not to be the guy in the meme in your reply.
