• Midnitte@beehaw.org
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    7 days ago

    In the end, however, the PSF simply can’t agree to a statement that we won’t operate any programs that “advance or promote” diversity, equity, and inclusion, as it would be a betrayal of our mission and our community.

    Good on the PSF.

    Perhaps I should up my donation…

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      5 days ago

      The most distressing part of this is the way the NSF, the funder here, just gave into the administrations illegal takeover if their programs. The NSF was created by Congress and isn’t even within the regular agency structure of the executive branch. Buncha Quislings

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        5 days ago

        The executive has the last say whether funds are released to be spent.

        Congress can authorize funds. Doesn’t mean they can authorize and spend infinitely without checks and balances.

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          This is not checks and balances. Get those words out yo mouth. This is a fascist takeover and it is clearly illegal.

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      5 days ago

      Great! You have a spare 1.5M lying around next to the priests edicts and talking points you had to parrot to keep your job during the previous administration?

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    5 days ago

    PSF is exactly the kinda organization the current administration explicitly does not want funded.

    Thank the PSF self-righteous priestly leadership for outing themselves. This year’s competition for Darwin award is gonna be fierce.

    For my opinion to change:

    • remove the PSF code of conduct

    • remove politics from PSF. No political stances

    • replace the current leadership with folks who are not priests, so this crap doesn’t keep repeating

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      Being open, inclusive and non-bigoted is the non-political stance.

      This administration has repeatedly been shown to be vindictive and the mallot shaped claw back clause will likely be used to hurt anyone foolish enough to accept it in order to coerce whatever is politically favorable to the admin at that time.

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        Just hold the funds for two years. Clause expires.

        If the claw back occurs during the two year interm, nothing lost.

        So the claw back clause is not a show stopper.

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          5 days ago

          Why take funds from a litigious source knowing full well they will attempt to embroil you in legal action for your intended standard operation?

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            The point about avoiding legal action is a risk that has to be weighed against the reward. And if you wrote the article, carefully quantifying the risks and associated costs. Would be a much higher degree of difficulty to argue against. Also would leave the impression that you’d make a great Project Manager.

            However that is just not PSF argument nor position.

            The PR articles make exactly two points:

            1. PSF leadership supports DEI
            2. the claw back risk is scary

            Have already addressed both issues the PSF has with moving forward and accepting funding.

            PSF can drop their DEI religious tenant, which is not virtuous, or continue to not be funded.

            Eventually the emperor has no clothes, would become obvious to all, that the current PSF leadership stance causes unfortunate and completely avoidable consequences.

            There is another unstated risk, explained best by Donald Rumsfield, the unknown unknowns. The west is at war with Russia. During wartime, govts can do unspeakable things. By being funded by govt, that squarely puts team PSF within the Wests or NATOs good graces. PSF is betting the eye of Sauron never comes their way. So accepting funding can be a positive risk with an associated absolutely huge opportunity reward. Not just the $1.5M, but US govt tends to throw money at problems especially during wartime. If US govt sees Python as a strategic resource, we might look back at that small $1.5M with nostalgia.

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              The problem anti inclusion is at odds with the west as well.

              There is almost no benefit to siding with the minority political opinion and the definitional exclusion of the rest of the world.

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                The affects of anti-white discrimination policies (DEI) is alienation of white people. Luckily most white people are too dumb to properly respond until they are not. White people may march towards tribalism matching the rest of the world. Expect many subgroups to close themselves off.

                What you should do if you are white:

                • if possible, move to a state|country that is not actively discriminating against you or taxing you into extinction. Seek a clan that wants you as a member and aligns with your goals.

                • do not publish. Which also takes out the job loss threat of AI

                • do the absolute minimum to support the fiat printer masters

                • study from the failures of political movements and activists. There are no sides. The lessons are universal.

                • participate and teach others to participate in the parallel economy

                • do not offer help to those who love their fiat money printer masters

                Sit back and enjoy the show. All this tech is not written and maintained by retarts. Taking white people out of the equation, the tech maintenance collapse comes sooner.

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                  Calling the python orgs DEI “anti-white” or related to anything else you mentioned honestly seems delusional. As in if you are experiencing real issues in your life I worry that this fantastical thinking maybe hindering your ability to address the real causes.

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    5 days ago

    this is an example of poor leadership. This leadership needs replacing. They’ve proved it with this announcement.

    PSF current leadership are proving they are religious zealots as the water recedes from previous orthodoxy. So to should they be replaced.