• reev@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      102·
      7 days ago

      There’s a lot of benefit had from urinals for literally everyone involved. Maybe something like a urinal area and a stall area? Would sorta self load balance. Could see that being unsafer for women during low usage though.

          • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
            53·
            7 days ago

            to anyone. they’re unhygienic, they waste water, they are not privacy-friendly, they require much more cleaning… i’ve been in unisex bathrooms with urinals and it’s just awful for everyone involved.

            • reev@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              12·
              6 days ago

              Sure, they’re relatively unhygienic but you aren’t actually touching anything yourself. Not to mention men standing while pissing in stalls is… just as bad. You have to flush with normal toilets too so I don’t really see how they waste more water. Plenty of people don’t really care thaaat much about privacy when at a urinal (beyond a privacy screen) and those that do can still enjoy the gender neutral stalls.

              The benefit comes from throughput. You can put way more urinals in the same amount of space as a couple stalls would use. And if the men go to the urinals to piss then that frees up more gender neutral stalls for everyone else. It’s just better to have urinals than not to have them at almost any public facility unless you only have room for a single stall or two.

              • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
                2·
                6 days ago

                i’ve never been in a public bathroom that doesn’t have both in the same place. it’s awful and i wish they didn’t exist.

                • reev@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  6·
                  6 days ago

                  I am incredibly grateful that urinals exist, public bathrooms (and the queues for them) would be much worse without them.

  • SavvyWolf@pawb.socialEnglish
    27·
    7 days ago

    In the UK, where bathroom bans are a thing now, I’ve seen a lot of places brand the accessible bathroom as “gender neutral” as well.

    The whole situation sucks, but it’s nice seeing that people are taking steps to protect women from cunty cis women.

    • Yeromon@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      5·
      6 days ago

      I don’t think I have ever seen a gendered accessible bathroom where I live (Germany) since places usually only have one, but they aren’t really usable as a gender neutral bathroom since you usually need a special key to access them, which is restricted to those who need them. I’ve only seen gender neutral bathrooms twice, once in a bar in Polen where they had a small hallway with some sinks and 4 rooms adjacent to it, each with a single toilet and during eurofurence where they replaced the bathroom signs with their own marking them as either only men, only women or gender neutral. The signs also said what was in them (urinals, stalls, period products). In both cases people did not care about who was using them since everyone just wants to get done quickly and get back out.

      • SavvyWolf@pawb.socialEnglish
        6·
        6 days ago

        They’re not usually gendered here either, I more mean they’re explicitly being marked as neutral rather than just “disabled”. At my work they have a combined male+female sign on them as well as the weelchair guy. I was at a convention and they had “Gender neutral bathroom” on a printed out piece of paper stuck to them.

        I’ve personally never seen any (they’re probably only down in England) but supposedly locked disabled toilets are a thing here. But you can get the keys fairly cheaply online and LGBTI charities are giving them out now.

    • Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.worldEnglish
      16·
      4 days ago

      Its thrown me off when you said “women” without a distinction about a “trans woman” but made the distinction “cis women”. It’s correct and more understandable to make the distinction “trans women” and leaving “cis women” as “women”. Its more proper and understandable. Dont get all cranky on me.

      • tux7350@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        3 days ago

        People are going to get cranky when you go around telling people how to speak “more proper and understandable”. Who the fuck are you? Lol get outta here with that bull shit

      • SavvyWolf@pawb.socialEnglish
        5·
        4 days ago

        Nah. Those bigots are absolutely going to go off on women that happen to look the slightest bit masculine, regardless of their gender identity.

      • Pat_Riot@lemmy.todayEnglish
        2·
        5 days ago

        I believe they are saying that cis women treat trans women as badly as cis men do and that this offers trans women some chance of actual privacy.