Please note that NSFW/NSFL videos must be labeled as such or they will be deleted
Edit: also keep in mind that initial information in these situations can often be inaccurate. Trusted outlets have conflicting reports about whether a suspect has been detained.
Edit 2: the campus has officially stated they release the initial subject. Donald Trump has stated Charlie Kirk is dead.
Its like if you had a grocery bag full of red water, and then poked a hole in the bottom. It was steady and rushing out of his body, for a second or two before he went limp and slid out of his chair and onto the ground. It was very quick but you still have enough time to see a shocking amount of blood.
I am genuienly curious, you have a definition of gore…that is not fundamentally based in a human realizing something is very, very wrong with another living being?
Like… your blood is generally supposed to stay inside you. Blood is generally considered more gory the more of it there is.
Alright. Gore is the inside squishy bits of the body you shouldn’t see: muscles, torn flesh, whatnot. You see someone’s brains or a stump where an appendage was just separated, that’s gore.
Blood is… well… blood. In context it’s alarming, but ultimately it’s just a bunch of opaque red liquid.
I think also that people watch a lot of simulated murders on TV, and they kind of don’t know what its like to watch a person die. Like Tarantino will make geysers of blood look very cool, treehouse of horror makes explosions of organs funny, etc. The amount of blood, at least for that context, is some but in normal bounds. I would say the part that is pretty terrifying for me, is that there are small things, like the way he flops back, the way he’s cut off… the simulations haven’t prepared people for this.
Watching a video of someone die is very different from watching it irl.
A video, your brain would juat categorize it with the TV stuff so you don’t really feel much.
Its better this way, people need to stop dancing around the topic of death. Just accept it as a fact and its easier to live life that way, instead of under a veil of lies and the cutsy “heaven” bs.
the blood doesn’t spray everywhere or all over him, but you can tell a lot gushed out quickly and goes out of view of the camera….
it’s really fast and mostly you notice his shirt moving suddenly
Agreed that people draw the lines in different ways. For me personally, the video is bloody, not gory. It’d be gory if there was viscera clearly visible.
Regardless, can see it being a traumatic image for some. But on the other hand, a lot of us are desensitized.
I guess I watched enough videos from Ukraine and Gaza these past 3 years to be more desensitized. That wasn’t that bad – and key point – relative to what else I’ve seen. My partner also works in trauma medicine, so we discuss a lot of stuff.
In some respects, I think conservatives who have a fetish for guns should witness the true damage they inflict.
Yeah I felt the same. I actually can’t watch gory films but this video wasn’t hard to watch. But then I’ve experienced quite a lot of difficult situations irl so maybe I’m desensitised.
when i see expert work in my field i have to admire it even when it’s a crime. like, when i was in finance and a particularly creative fraud would make the news we’d all go to the break room and talk about the accused’s chutzpah and take turns saying what we’d change to get away with it, and how we’d get caught in an audit (all but one of us worked at the IRS for a spell), and so on for about an hour. it was a great thought exercise, kept our brains active and helped keep us current with caselaw.
likewise, though grievous bodily harm was inflicted, that’s a remarkable shot.
Probably fair to assume that the shooter was aiming for center of mass. A stationary person at 180m is pretty easy to hit in the chest, and someone with enough skill/confidence might have opted to aim for the head, but nobody is aiming specifically for the neck. A hit on the neck almost definitely means the shooter was aiming for something else and missed high (or low) by inches in a way that still hit the guy.
Most training scenarios don’t require you to consider what happens when your target’s head is an anomalous mix of completely empty and indescribably dense. Under the circumstances, the shooter did remarkably well.
In a purely technical, non-banworthy kind of way, of course.
He likely missed. He was either aiming for center mass (most likely), or the head. In either case he was 8" high or low respectively from misjudging the distance.
My guess is it was likely a shot at center mass that went high. This was was no 3000m special forces sniper insanity.
Fair, but also I know for a fact I could never even get close. I’m not saying this was some insane record setting shot or anything, but 200 yards while he’s under a tent and behind a crowd, it’s a wonder he hit Kirk’s bitch ass instead of someone in the crowd, and he landed it in a vital artery
It’s honestly not as bad as I expected. The amount of blood reminds me of the historic Bud Dwyer video. -If i were to speculate i’d say it looks like Kirk had a very sudden and near total loss of blood pressure to his head when he was hit which leads me to think that he probably lost consciousnous before he knew what hit him.
I am not a medical professional. Nervous system was instantly affected and his body flung to the so callev teapot arms position. You are VERY unlikely to survive a shot like that under the BEST care in the world given that as we all can see, no amount of pressure on the wound can stop the blood loss. The last 5-6 seconds of your life are just a fade to black, pain is no longer a concept for your brain, you got quite literally unplugged and your body never knows what happened.
Please note that NSFW/NSFL videos must be labeled as such or they will be deleted
Edit: also keep in mind that initial information in these situations can often be inaccurate. Trusted outlets have conflicting reports about whether a suspect has been detained.
Edit 2: the campus has officially stated they release the initial subject. Donald Trump has stated Charlie Kirk is dead.
Also, uh, if you have any doubt in your fortitude whatsoever, do not watch them.
Seriously.
For anyone who is curious but might not want to watch the video, here’s a description I found that a friend of mine who watched it says is accurate:
Description
he got shot in the neck by a high powered rifle and instantly litres of blood spewed out as he slumped over. He likely won’t survive.
Dude could have fell off his seat and onto a trauma operating table and still died.
“Likely won’t survive”… My dude was dead within seconds.
He tensed up and stared off into the distance like he was gone instantly. Probably hit in the spinal.
Like an open spigot.
Yeah that matches what I saw
Like Kill Bill levels of blood squirting out?
Heavy leaking artery. Not as a bad as that Buffalo Sabres goalie in the 90s getting cut by a skate
Its like if you had a grocery bag full of red water, and then poked a hole in the bottom. It was steady and rushing out of his body, for a second or two before he went limp and slid out of his chair and onto the ground. It was very quick but you still have enough time to see a shocking amount of blood.
Lol, that sounds like my first RE4 playthrough
RE4 Spoiler and potential gore
the chainsaw dude literally decapitating my man Leon, literally scarier than any other enemy in the game, solely for the gorey part
Yep yep yep this x100, if you have PTSD or just have never seen or cannot handle extreme gore, probably actually do not watch the clip.
This is an extremely legitimately trigger warning worthy video clip.
Ya, the video is grim. Seriously doubt he survived.
For anyone wondering: it’s not gory as such, but it is significant in that way that tells our lizard brains something undeniably bad just happened.
I…what?
How else would you define ‘gory’?
I am genuienly curious, you have a definition of gore…that is not fundamentally based in a human realizing something is very, very wrong with another living being?
Like… your blood is generally supposed to stay inside you. Blood is generally considered more gory the more of it there is.
I mean, the phrase “blood and gore” sort of lays out the distinction.
… No, what I am saying is that it does not, for me, and I am asking for clarificatiom.
Alright. Gore is the inside squishy bits of the body you shouldn’t see: muscles, torn flesh, whatnot. You see someone’s brains or a stump where an appendage was just separated, that’s gore.
Blood is… well… blood. In context it’s alarming, but ultimately it’s just a bunch of opaque red liquid.
Ah.
That makes sense!
Thank you.=D
I think also that people watch a lot of simulated murders on TV, and they kind of don’t know what its like to watch a person die. Like Tarantino will make geysers of blood look very cool, treehouse of horror makes explosions of organs funny, etc. The amount of blood, at least for that context, is some but in normal bounds. I would say the part that is pretty terrifying for me, is that there are small things, like the way he flops back, the way he’s cut off… the simulations haven’t prepared people for this.
Watching a video of someone die is very different from watching it irl.
A video, your brain would juat categorize it with the TV stuff so you don’t really feel much.
Its better this way, people need to stop dancing around the topic of death. Just accept it as a fact and its easier to live life that way, instead of under a veil of lies and the cutsy “heaven” bs.
the blood doesn’t spray everywhere or all over him, but you can tell a lot gushed out quickly and goes out of view of the camera….
it’s really fast and mostly you notice his shirt moving suddenly
So to you, only blood spatter is gory?
Not actually just watching something like 1/3 to 1/2 his blood exit his body in maybe 3 seconds tops?
Like if a guy shat out all his intenstines, but … they went off camera, neatly into a bucket… that wouldn’t be gory?
Again I am just curious about this, different people are disgusted by different things, draw the lines in different ways I guess.
Agreed that people draw the lines in different ways. For me personally, the video is bloody, not gory. It’d be gory if there was viscera clearly visible.
Regardless, can see it being a traumatic image for some. But on the other hand, a lot of us are desensitized.
I guess I watched enough videos from Ukraine and Gaza these past 3 years to be more desensitized. That wasn’t that bad – and key point – relative to what else I’ve seen. My partner also works in trauma medicine, so we discuss a lot of stuff.
In some respects, I think conservatives who have a fetish for guns should witness the true damage they inflict.
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I don’t think people are used to seeing that volume of blood outside movies. That’s like, dead in minutes type bleeding
Finally someone who can shoot (sorry Tommy Crooks, you suck)
Yeah I felt the same. I actually can’t watch gory films but this video wasn’t hard to watch. But then I’ve experienced quite a lot of difficult situations irl so maybe I’m desensitised.
Agree. I watched it and really wish I hadn’t.
I really regret watching it. I can’t stand blood, especially so much of it
You may want this page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Charlie_Kirk
There are already 23 references to news articles and social media posts on there last I checked
The timing of the shot is wild:
I wonder if the shooter was able to hear what was being said.
They were reported as being on a building 200 yards away, so unless those speakers were booming, I doubt it
180m is not thaat far considering the furthest attendees were probably like 50m away.
Yeah, but 200 yards to make a clean shot straight through his artery while he’s under a tent is some sniper shit
when i see expert work in my field i have to admire it even when it’s a crime. like, when i was in finance and a particularly creative fraud would make the news we’d all go to the break room and talk about the accused’s chutzpah and take turns saying what we’d change to get away with it, and how we’d get caught in an audit (all but one of us worked at the IRS for a spell), and so on for about an hour. it was a great thought exercise, kept our brains active and helped keep us current with caselaw.
likewise, though grievous bodily harm was inflicted, that’s a remarkable shot.
Probably fair to assume that the shooter was aiming for center of mass. A stationary person at 180m is pretty easy to hit in the chest, and someone with enough skill/confidence might have opted to aim for the head, but nobody is aiming specifically for the neck. A hit on the neck almost definitely means the shooter was aiming for something else and missed high (or low) by inches in a way that still hit the guy.
Like saying somebody that chooses the winning lotto numbers is a mastermind of picking numbers.
Until we know more about the shooter, we really don’t know if he was aiming, or if he got lucky.
Most training scenarios don’t require you to consider what happens when your target’s head is an anomalous mix of completely empty and indescribably dense. Under the circumstances, the shooter did remarkably well.
In a purely technical, non-banworthy kind of way, of course.
He likely missed. He was either aiming for center mass (most likely), or the head. In either case he was 8" high or low respectively from misjudging the distance.
My guess is it was likely a shot at center mass that went high. This was was no 3000m special forces sniper insanity.
Fair, but also I know for a fact I could never even get close. I’m not saying this was some insane record setting shot or anything, but 200 yards while he’s under a tent and behind a crowd, it’s a wonder he hit Kirk’s bitch ass instead of someone in the crowd, and he landed it in a vital artery
not seeing shit on x, it’s all over threads with uncensored videos
Trump himself is now saying Kirk is dead.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump
Why the Fuck does he Type like an Idiot?
Because he is an idiot
Too many Big Macs?
Terminal uberboomeritis?
Silver spoon he was born with in his mouth got jammed into his brain at a young age?
You Hit the Nail on the Head?
I like how every news outlet says “GRAPHIC WARNING”, then proceeds to blur it anyways. Like… wtf is the point? Can’t even find a link lol
I’d recommend avoiding it, you can probably get a decent idea from knowing he got hit in the carotid artery.
Already watched it. Meh. Final Destination movies are much more gore-y
Got a link? I’m getting strsisanded into seeing it because I keep hearing how gore-y it is and now I’m just curious.
I found one below. Thank you!
Cause I need to watch things die From a distance
Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies You all need it too, don’t lie
Does anyone have a link? Not seeing one in this thread
Here (NSFW, shooting, blood etc)
Holy shit. That fucker isn’t surviving that.
Edit: he’s dead, obviously and officially.
It’s honestly not as bad as I expected. The amount of blood reminds me of the historic Bud Dwyer video. -If i were to speculate i’d say it looks like Kirk had a very sudden and near total loss of blood pressure to his head when he was hit which leads me to think that he probably lost consciousnous before he knew what hit him.
I am not a medical professional. Nervous system was instantly affected and his body flung to the so callev teapot arms position. You are VERY unlikely to survive a shot like that under the BEST care in the world given that as we all can see, no amount of pressure on the wound can stop the blood loss. The last 5-6 seconds of your life are just a fade to black, pain is no longer a concept for your brain, you got quite literally unplugged and your body never knows what happened.
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