• Tb0n3@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    263·
    6 days ago

    Remaining illegally in the country is a crime. When you say not a criminal, it’s not just not a violent criminal. Easy enough to say she’s not a violent criminal.

    • TheRealKuni@piefed.socialEnglish
      38·
      6 days ago

      Remaining illegally in the country is not a crime. It’s a civil offense. It does not make someone a criminal.

      Don’t be an asshat.

        • erin@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          23·
          6 days ago

          No, it’s a tort. A crime is a criminal offense. A tort is a civil offense. Both are illegal, meaning against the law, but whether that is civil or criminal law is the distinction.

        • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          13·
          6 days ago

          Unless you use the word criminal for people who jaywalk (the same level of ‘crime’ as illegal immigration: a misdemeanor) then you’re being selective about which misdemeanors make you a criminal. Which is suspect.

    • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksOPM
      311·
      6 days ago

      She may have been here legally or even a US citizen. They’re not making that distinction anymore. Shit, they’re even saying natural born citizens aren’t legal.

      • Tb0n3@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        114·
        6 days ago

        That’s certainly a possibility and a horrific consequence of ICE basically becoming brown shirts. However it’s certainly a better defense than “not a criminal”, so if they had that information they would have said she was here legally and this was a massive violation of rights.

        • Septimaeus@infosec.pub
          11·
          6 days ago

          Criminal vs civil violations. Do you think driving with a burned out light somewhere on your vehicle is criminal behavior that makes you a criminal?