I think it has become more than apparent that our federation with Hexbear has degraded the quality of browsing on this instance. I’m generally for open federation, but the amount of brigading and general toxicity is not conducive to the friendly communications that make Lemmy great.
I’m honestly tired of seeing the constant Hexbear defederation posts popping up on /all from other instances’ meta communities, and now sadly our own.
The features to defederate on a per-user basis are coming: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2397
For anyone who can’t wait, it is honestly easier to sign up on another instance who has already defederated. This is not reddit, you’re not penalised or restricted for having a brand new account somewhere. You also don’t need to type an essay if there’s an application, just prove you’re human.
Ehhh, the fact that it comes up so often is an indicator that there’s something wrong.
The issues that cause people to make these posts (if you look at the content of the posts and assume they’re made in good faith) are consistently about the behavior of the people from hexbear.
Since the instance literally has discussions about disrupting other instances communities, I don’t think it’s at all strange to see a ton of calls for defederation.
There’s what, three apps that let you filter instances? Considering that solution is very limited (and doesn’t actually prevent the disruption intended by the bad actors that use hexbear), trying to say that the “real” solution is to uproot yourself, migrate via the migration tools, and hope that’s the end of it isn’t useful.
Calls for defederation are part of lemmy. It just is the ultimate solution to an instance being a problem. The fact that it’s currently the only instance wide way to prevent disruption from another instance just reinforces the reason the ability is there in the first place.
Per user defederation will be wonderful once it arrives, but it’s only useful when the instance you’re on chooses not to defederate from a disruptive instance and you can’t/won’t move away.
As boring as it is to see defederation calls, they aren’t going away.
Its ubiquitous for a reason. They have been nothing but trouble since they federated.
I wouldnt even mind defederating them for now and then deleting the blacklist once the instance blocking feature is added.
From that pull request:
“My PR only hides communities from that instance, but not users.”
So no, it’s not defederation on a per-user basis.
At this point, I feel like there might be a team of people all pushing different instances to defederate hexbear. A lot of the comments look the same in each post too. Could just be me.
Yeah.
You know - I’ve been thinking the same thing about water. There must be a team of people all working together to push the idea that it’s wet. Why else would so many different people all say the same thing?
Yeah.
You know - And magnets how TF do they work anyway?
You can’t explain that