As I said in another comment, it’s not Microsoft’s position to be the judge of who is and isn’t fascist. It’s their position to stay in business, and you don’t do that by disobeying the government.
Do you think Microsoft should have sacrificed the entire company instead of follow the law?
They could move their main office e to Canada and say “fuck you”. It’s like Hugo Boss, Volkswagen, Mercedes etc. They they preferred to support the nazis for more profits.
Don’t you think Microsoft has any power? The entire government runs on Windows. It’s a massive company. They have the power to say “no” but they won’t. So they are also a bunch of nazis. This is the time to choose a side, and Microsoft just did.
Shell was unhappy so they moved from the Netherlands to the UK. It’s not that hard. Shell is a huge company too.
When you support nazis, you’re a nazi. Again, not that hard.
A Danish company returned their entire car fleet back to Tesla because Elon is a nazi. Clearly they are not nazi sympathizers. People who buy a Tesla are.
By complying with nazis you empower them. It’s how Hitler came to power, it’s how Trump came to power. Huge companies like Shell and Microsoft can take the small hit to move to a non-nazi country. Their profits are big enough. When you have a small business and you don’t have a choice, I can understand. Everyone has to eat. But when you do have a choice, I will judge your choice.
Doesn’t change the fact that they did it, though. Although “US govt forced MS to shut down prosecutor’s email” would indeed have been more accurate.
The question still remains to whether corporations should bow to tyrannical demands. I think they do so too eagerly and should fight it more. If they don’t, that’s a pretty clear sign to anyone that your data and email simply isn’t safe in their hands.
It does change that fact, because again - they’re forced to by law. There’s no wiggle room. Had they chosen to defy them and take them to court, Microsoft probably would have been forced to cease trading in the USA or something equally as company destroying.
Your data and email isn’t ever “safe” unless you’re hosting every single part of it yourself, and even then - if the government orders you to do something, you’ll fold like origami when faced with the alternative. Microsoft aren’t in the business of deciding who is and isn’t “tyrannical”. They are in the business of following legal orders and staying in business though.
It doesn’t matter that they’re forced by law. That just means no US company is safe. It still means you need to get your stuff out of there.
And yes, your data and email can be safe, because EU law requires your data to be safe. It is becoming impossible for international tech companies to obey both US and EU law, and if you want your stuff to be safe, you should choose one that obeys EU law.
Mind you, Microsoft is actually planning to do something about this; they’ve suggested (but not yet implemented, I think) separating their EU based servers into a separate daughter company under a European board. But until they actually implement that, your data isn’t safe.
And your data is even less safe with some other US tech companies which have a longer history of flaunting EU data protection rules in order to exploit your data.
You’re forgetting the fact that the government ordered MS to do this. Moving your data to the EU does nothing to prevent any EU government from ordering the same thing.
Because they were ordered to by the government or face enormous fines and repercussions.
Preeeeetty big thing to leave out of the headline if you ask me.
So they complied with a fascist regime to avoid fines and repercussions… They still complied with a fascist regime. Pretty bit thing if you ask me.
As I said in another comment, it’s not Microsoft’s position to be the judge of who is and isn’t fascist. It’s their position to stay in business, and you don’t do that by disobeying the government.
Do you think Microsoft should have sacrificed the entire company instead of follow the law?
They could move their main office e to Canada and say “fuck you”. It’s like Hugo Boss, Volkswagen, Mercedes etc. They they preferred to support the nazis for more profits.
Don’t you think Microsoft has any power? The entire government runs on Windows. It’s a massive company. They have the power to say “no” but they won’t. So they are also a bunch of nazis. This is the time to choose a side, and Microsoft just did.
Microsoft are nazis now? lol
“They could just move their entire business to Canada” lol
Jesus Christ.
Shell was unhappy so they moved from the Netherlands to the UK. It’s not that hard. Shell is a huge company too.
When you support nazis, you’re a nazi. Again, not that hard.
A Danish company returned their entire car fleet back to Tesla because Elon is a nazi. Clearly they are not nazi sympathizers. People who buy a Tesla are.
By complying with nazis you empower them. It’s how Hitler came to power, it’s how Trump came to power. Huge companies like Shell and Microsoft can take the small hit to move to a non-nazi country. Their profits are big enough. When you have a small business and you don’t have a choice, I can understand. Everyone has to eat. But when you do have a choice, I will judge your choice.
How many data centres do shell have? Not the same, at all.
When you call everyone Nazis, no one is a Nazi.
Doesn’t change the fact that they did it, though. Although “US govt forced MS to shut down prosecutor’s email” would indeed have been more accurate.
The question still remains to whether corporations should bow to tyrannical demands. I think they do so too eagerly and should fight it more. If they don’t, that’s a pretty clear sign to anyone that your data and email simply isn’t safe in their hands.
It does change that fact, because again - they’re forced to by law. There’s no wiggle room. Had they chosen to defy them and take them to court, Microsoft probably would have been forced to cease trading in the USA or something equally as company destroying.
Your data and email isn’t ever “safe” unless you’re hosting every single part of it yourself, and even then - if the government orders you to do something, you’ll fold like origami when faced with the alternative. Microsoft aren’t in the business of deciding who is and isn’t “tyrannical”. They are in the business of following legal orders and staying in business though.
It doesn’t matter that they’re forced by law. That just means no US company is safe. It still means you need to get your stuff out of there.
And yes, your data and email can be safe, because EU law requires your data to be safe. It is becoming impossible for international tech companies to obey both US and EU law, and if you want your stuff to be safe, you should choose one that obeys EU law.
Mind you, Microsoft is actually planning to do something about this; they’ve suggested (but not yet implemented, I think) separating their EU based servers into a separate daughter company under a European board. But until they actually implement that, your data isn’t safe.
And your data is even less safe with some other US tech companies which have a longer history of flaunting EU data protection rules in order to exploit your data.
You’re forgetting the fact that the government ordered MS to do this. Moving your data to the EU does nothing to prevent any EU government from ordering the same thing.
I am not the one forgetting that. You are forgetting that the EU is not the US, and EU law is the polar opposite of US law on this issue.
Does EU law prevent a countries government from ordering a social media account to be blocked?
EU law prevents any government from accessing your email or other data, whereas the US demands easy access to your data. That’s what I’m referring to.
But I’ve also never heard of them blocking anyone’s email, and certainly not in retaliation for investigating war crimes.
Ok so no, there are no laws to prevent any government in Europe doing the exact same thing.
If you think that no government agencies in Europe are spying on your data, oh boy do I have news for you lol